04-17-2010, 11:28 PM
"except to save power"
Originally Posted by smitty3268
this is just wrong phoronix thest this a GPU solution need MORE power consuming than a modern CPU!
you can save power consuming by using the CPU!!!
GPU acceleration is a pur Lie! a nvidia marketing Lie!
04-18-2010, 12:49 AM
I agree with Kano, 100%. To say, the priority is workstation cards or workstation support is to neglect mainstream consumers/customers and throw away an opportunity with regards to Nvidia. Maybe that is not a concern or of any consideration. But, there are probably a lot of users would prefer a driver encompass a wide variety of uses or cover the entire potential use of the card.
Linux users might want a high performance card and maybe they dual boot. So, an expensive card won't be supported 100% or teh priority won't be there?
Saying there is OSS support is nice but not a major factor for the average customer! Besides, there's even a report on here that presents the OSS driver support of a current state being woefully inferior to fglrx driver performance of something like FOUR YEARS AGO. Most people will use what works and offers optimal performance whether it's 3D, video play, whatever. If Windows and Workstations, then admit it so users can decide if they want to get a Nvidia card or dual boot for a while until support improves enough.
As for the latest claims that the ATI hardware is superior and doesn't run as hot with lower temps. That's true. That is one reason I wanted a newer ATI card. But, this is only an advantage if you're often dual booting into Windows. If the fglrx drivers are so shoddy and the OSS drivers are always late and not optimized, then the advantages probably won't be there or work fully. I will hate to do it but I'll look at the GT 240 since it's cheap and I'll then wait to see what happens on the ATI side. I also use video a lot and video issues would be frustrating as it's probably a chore just to install the drivers in many cases.
04-18-2010, 01:30 AM
if you support cloused source up to 100% like kano (kano likes(use) vista to)
Originally Posted by Panix
'''Bridgman use Vista to to go into the 'internet' '''
then you also can delete your Linux/bsd/opensolaris and use Windows7!
its funny to talk to non foss people they do not unterstand foss at all.
the game 'foss' is not abaut getting the best cloused source driver...
if you need a cloused source driver to run an FOSS OS (kano) or a cloused-source OS to go into the internet(bridgman) you are lost!
FOSS in real means: do not sell your soul to the devil
use a cloused source driver or use a cloused source os means sell your soul to the devil.
you are just lost!
04-18-2010, 04:08 AM
My card is a LOWER clocked gt220, the one tested is a OC card. You must have dreamt that your 4670 needs less power. Where did you see 16w for your card?
04-18-2010, 04:23 AM
04-18-2010, 04:24 AM
Please tell me you're joking.
Originally Posted by Qaridarium
04-18-2010, 04:56 AM
Either the test is broken (bad config, bad reference, etc.) or the GPU is broken. Reality is this is a power saving solution: the Poulsbo decoder is around 200 mW. When overlay is used and 3D engine not used, the latter is simply shut down.
Originally Posted by Qaridarium
04-18-2010, 05:08 AM
The NVIDIA/VDPAU driver is genuine, it's not a wrapper around the Windows module or code base. Some postproc algorithms are even different. The AMD/XvBA driver is "simply" a wrapper around the Windows driver. If you read around the forums, I am sure you can obviously see which of those works best. There are other examples but I can't go into greater details.
Originally Posted by Hans
What do you mean by "I am not seeing any proper linux support from nvidia neither"? OSS is not a reason, so why do you say so? I personally don't care if the driver is proprietary. I just want it to work correctly with the claimed features. i.e. if I pay for a GPU with certain features, I want to use them. Otherwise, either I buy something else or I have to get the GPU for a seriously discounted price to compensate the claimed features that are not available (properly) to Linux...
04-18-2010, 10:46 AM
you are just wrong the same artikel:
Originally Posted by Kano
shows that the 4670 is much faster!
you can't compare a slow gtx220 to an fast 4670!
uuuhhh your artikle uses windows7(vista) and the 4670 uses 1 single watt more in idle! LOL!!!
yes but only because the card is much faster!
04-18-2010, 11:47 AM
Good find, your card is faster. Only very few ppl would buy a GT220 for gaming - i only got it to watch hd movies, even a G210 would be enough for that - but this card i got for free and a G210 i would need to buy, so what would you have used then?