Linus Wants Nouveau Merged Into Kernel

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Linus Wants Nouveau Merged Into Kernel

This morning the first DRM pull request went in for the Linux 2.6.33 kernel that brings many nice graphics changes for Intel, ATI/AMD, and VMware users. Anything for NVIDIA hardware through Novueau was not mentioned as there is no readied support, but as we stated in our article this morning, its unlikely to see Nouveau's DRM in the mainline kernel before the Linux 2.6.34 kernel...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=Nzc5MA

[Kano]

The idea is really good, it shouldn't be that bad when Fedora ships it by default. But then go further and do the same for aufs2 please - Ubuntu ships it too by default.

[johnny]

The idea is really good, it shouldn't be that bad when Fedora ships it by default. But then go further and do the same for aufs2 please - Ubuntu ships it too by default.

aufs will probably never be merged, the vfs maintainers are looking for other solutions, like union mounts instead.

[Kano]

Well the current solutions like Fedora/Moblin uses without aufs2 is not that good. It restricts the usable space too much - not just the size of the tmpfs used for aufs which could be increased easlyly with a remount,size=xG.

[johnny]

Well the current solutions like Fedora/Moblin uses without aufs2 is not that good. It restricts the usable space too much - not just the size of the tmpfs used for aufs which could be increased easlyly with a remount,size=xG.

that may be the case, but that doesn't help get aufs merged when the vfs maintainers are against it so completely.
You should look into union mounts status.

[pipe13]

I've heard all the excuses. If it isn't ready, they shouldn't ship it to millions of people.

Geeeeee whillickers, Mr Torvalds! What part of "perpetual beta-ness of Fedora" don't you understand?

[droidhacker]

Geeeeee whillickers, Mr Torvalds! What part of "perpetual beta-ness of Fedora" don't you understand?

Perpetual betaness doesn't mean unusable.
I think I read somewhere that Linus himself uses Fedora.

And for that matter, isn't Linux itself kinda perpetually beta?

[misiu_mp]

Perpetual betaness doesn't mean unusable.
I think I read somewhere that Linus himself uses Fedora.

And for that matter, isn't Linux itself kinda perpetually beta?

When you think of the graphics driver changes that that happened not so long ago and broke user (intel) desktops, it certainly looks like it.
I have a feeling Intel is given too much of a free hand in submitting early changes without keeping a backup. It caused several supposedly stable releases of kernels to behave as some shitty betas for many users.
Although hidden regressions are not avoidable in general, it is unthinkable they didn't know (or shouldn't have known) about this when they submitted the code.

[Yfrwlf]

isn't Linux itself kinda perpetually beta?

Sure seems like it if they can't yet create a stable API for drivers to use.

[Xheyther]

The mailing list client at sourceforge really sucks. I didn't manage to view the entire thread :/
Anyway, for Nouveau, it seems that their are issues with some microde that need to be solved too.