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    Phoronix: Moonlight, Microsoft Patent Covenant Updates

    Just two days after Mono 2.6 was rolled out, which has been widely discussed within our forums, Miguel de Icaza has a few more Microsoft / Mono related announcements. Miguel this morning has announced that Moonlight 2.0 is complete, there is a new collaboration agreement between Microsoft and Novell to bring the Silverlight 3.0 and 4.0 feature sets to Moonlight, and Microsoft has updated its patent covenant that concerns Moonlight's distribution abilities. Moonlight 2.0 has been in beta for a few months and it implements most of Microsoft's Silverlight 2.0 functionality along with some early 3.0 features with regards to the pluggable pipeline, easing animation functions, partial out-of-browser support, writable bitmaps, and new data-binding features...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=NzgxNg

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    You see guys? What did I say in my last post?

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    Notably missing from that is Netflix. I wonder if this increased collaboration will include Netflix and the advanced media streaming required to support it, or if that is still off the table. I want to switch to use boxee with linux not windows.

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    MS knows that Mono will never going to compete really with moonlight and ofcourse will never produce innovation, so it's the best solution for them to play the good guy while benefit themselves and against FOSS.
    It is not collaboration at all but a different and tricky form of control and leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apopas View Post
    @bulletxt
    MS knows that Mono will never going to compete really with moonlight and ofcourse will never produce innovation, so it's the best solution for them to play the good guy while benefit themselves and against FOSS.
    It is not collaboration at all but a different and tricky form of control and leadership.
    Same goes for AMD, INTEL and all the rest. And even Red Hat. They all do something to get money back. Where do you live? Do you belong to this universe? Wake up and smell the coffee my friend.

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    RedHat lives from Opensource and wants Linux to compete with any other OS and innovate rather than follow other's innovations while AMD and Intel cares for their hardware to work properly under Linux and for that they opened their drivers and specs to the community. Where do you see leadrship, control and hindering of innovation here? What does that have to do with microsoft? The first companies benefit from Linux while MS does not. Totally different goals via totally different ways.
    Last edited by Apopas; 12-17-2009 at 04:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletxt View Post
    Same goes for AMD, INTEL and all the rest. And even Red Hat. They all do something to get money back. Where do you live? Do you belong to this universe? Wake up and smell the coffee my friend.
    The difference is AMD, INTEL and Red Hat ARE Linux friendly, MS is not! I agree to what Apopas said. Except the part about God...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deeceefar2 View Post
    Notably missing from that is Netflix. I wonder if this increased collaboration will include Netflix and the advanced media streaming required to support it, or if that is still off the table. I want to switch to use boxee with linux not windows.
    Go read the comments on his blog. He replies to this question twice. First question asks how Roku can do Netflix on Linux but we can't - his reply states that the MS PlayReady DRM necessary to use Netflix is licensed such that it's available for embedded systems but not general-purpose Linux systems. The other reply flatly states that it is very unlikely that PlayReady DRM is going to be available for Linux.

    So I guess the NBC Football and Olympics content the blog post says they are focusing on don't use PlayReady (or any?) DRM. Or they are working to fully support all the non-DRM aspects of those applications.

    I just don't believe MS will ever willingly license any of their DRM solutions for general-purpose use on Linux. 'Legal' access to premium content is one of the major advantages they hold over Linux - why in the world would they give that up?

    Given this, from an end-user perspective I wonder why anyone cares about Moonlight, and why a whole team at Novell gets paid to spend time developing it. Who uses it? What for?

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    Ok, then I pray god your favourite website converts to silverlight and Microsoft wouldn't allow the existant of mono. Are you happy now? I am.
    I'm tired of bullshit.

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    Fortunately though, there is no god...

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