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    Angry Need to have some better security on the forums

    Michael, there seems to be a lot of bots hitting the forums lately and spamming them, would you please consider implementing some sign up security to thwart these annoyances?

    Here is another example with no doubt a few more garbage posts to follow:

    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21419
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21376
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21338
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21296
    http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21061
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    Problem is there's no signup security which can't be defeated by OCR or an office full of Chinese people on $0.50 an hour which won't drive away real users. 'Captchas', for example, have devolved to the point where it's probably easier for a computer to read than for me to do so; I typically have to make two or three attempts before I can work one out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    Problem is there's no signup security which can't be defeated by OCR or an office full of Chinese people on $0.50 an hour which won't drive away real users. 'Captchas', for example, have devolved to the point where it's probably easier for a computer to read than for me to do so; I typically have to make two or three attempts before I can work one out.
    Well there are some trends if you look at the spams,

    1) they always start a new thread on their initial spam, make it so that creating a new thread on the first posts from a new user can't be put up until reviewed

    2) since these are mostly bot signups have the signup process not accept a signup when the form is "instantly" filled from their macro's, etc. Usually with their signups are filled in all in one shot, something a human couldn't really do. Restrict it to the signup process has to take at least a minimum time such as 10 seconds.

    There are other ways as well to minimize the effect, they just have to be put in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    Problem is there's no signup security which can't be defeated by OCR or an office full of Chinese people on $0.50 an hour which won't drive away real users. 'Captchas', for example, have devolved to the point where it's probably easier for a computer to read than for me to do so; I typically have to make two or three attempts before I can work one out.
    id tend to say its the Chinese, except that no profit is involved.

    anyone know a reason behind the spam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    Problem is there's no signup security which can't be defeated by OCR or an office full of Chinese people on $0.50 an hour which won't drive away real users. 'Captchas', for example, have devolved to the point where it's probably easier for a computer to read than for me to do so; I typically have to make two or three attempts before I can work one out.
    I hear that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    Problem is there's no signup security which can't be defeated by OCR or an office full of Chinese people on $0.50 an hour which won't drive away real users. 'Captchas', for example, have devolved to the point where it's probably easier for a computer to read than for me to do so; I typically have to make two or three attempts before I can work one out.
    Dunno... I thought Text-chas were pretty effective at filtering out bots and still very accessible? They'll filter out everyone who doesn't speak english though, which might be a good and a bad thing. Good: Chinese wont be able to defeat them (as long as they don't speak english). Con: Non-english speakers wont be able to join the board. But seeing as how this is an english board anyway I don't think that'd be such a big trade-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zhick View Post
    Dunno... I thought Text-chas were pretty effective at filtering out bots and still very accessible? They'll filter out everyone who doesn't speak english though, which might be a good and a bad thing. Good: Chinese wont be able to defeat them (as long as they don't speak english). Con: Non-english speakers wont be able to join the board. But seeing as how this is an english board anyway I don't think that'd be such a big trade-off.
    oh man. poor Qaridarium would be trying for hours and hours.

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    Moderators are needed, not CR systems.

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    You probably need both. Moderators are the only practical solution for human posters, but if you can keep bots and other mass posters out that makes the remaining moderator effort a lot more manageable.

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