UVD/hw acceleration If, when?

[droidhacker]

I think that more to the point, this kind of thing may not be entirely LEGAL. I also don't see much chance of these three actually agreeing to anything -- they kind of really all don't much like each other.

[Kjella]

So let them blacklist everyone. So what? Consumers want their media the way they want it. Do you think, just because the media industry decides not to provide media on PCs the way consumers want it, that consumers will suddenly start flocking back to movie theaters and start buying DVDs again? Not bloody likely.

The more likely outcome of this unlikely scenario is that the MPAA will tell the PC manufacturers to go fish and that as of now only standalone players will do DVD/BluRay. I imagine that can quite easily be done without AMD/nVidia/Intel. Microsoft will choke on it because it'll lower PC sales and probably refuse the "designed for Windows $foo" logo, give warnings on upgrade tests and so on. And for this to work they'd have to stand united first, good luck on getting nVidia on board. Otherwise they'd stand to make a killing after AMD and Intel are blacklisted. And it'll have to be a rather watertight agreement otherwise one will betray the rest and return to DRM for 30 silvers (inflation adjusted) while the others will pay dearly or be shut out of the market.

In short, forget any official change from that direction. What I hope will happen is that we'll get working HTML5 video and that eventually some movie company will let stores deliver it as plain HTML5 streams. But first we need a big HTML5 push, I hope YouTube will help. Blahblahb theora blahblah but I'd much rather get rid of flash and all the other wierd movie playing plugins than wait for theora to take off.

[jonwil]

Given what Google has just done with VP8, the world has moved one step closer to a world free of flash.

[droidhacker]

Given what Google has just done with VP8, the world has moved one step closer to a world free of flash.

Thats nice. How does it apply to the topic of this thread?

[jonwil]

It was in reference to the comment by Kjella about wanting to be rid of Flash and other proprietary plugins.

[droidhacker]

It was in reference to the comment by Kjella about wanting to be rid of Flash and other proprietary plugins.

Ah, I see. Sorry about that, I didn't read through his full post, it was kinda rambling...

[highlandsun]

Well, VP8 is here now, and I don't see it having any impact on the DRM situation.

The fact is, DRM is a lie. Any security system that can only operate by making it illegal to study the system is no security system at all. SSL is a real security system - the full specs and several complete, interoperable implementations are available. Anyone can study and analyze it to their heart's content, and it remains secure, because it is built on a fundamentally secure design.

DRM is fundamentally insecure and insecurable, and the people selling it as if it had any real technical merit simply have no morals or ethics. Companies built on people like that deserve to be put out of business and their executives deserve to be jailed, along with the legislators who signed up behind it.

[highlandsun]

Apparently Brazilians are a lot smarter about this than Americans.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...g-fair-use.ars

Or just less brainwashed by the big media companies. We shouldn't even be talking in terms of "Breaking DRM is illegal unless it's done for fair use," we should be talking in terms of "DRM that infringes fair use is illegal." All of this crap that has been shoved down our throats by hardware vendors and their licensors obviously violates our constitutional rights. All of these DRM locks should be removed immediately, fines or fees associated with them should be refunded retroactively, and everyone responsible for putting them in place should be shot for treason.

Big media are the outlaws. Look around you, there are more individuals creating content than all of the corporations combined. Hi-Def camcorders are coming down in price, pretty soon everyone will be shooting their own Hi-Def movies and they'll be burning them onto BluRay discs. But once there, suddenly you lose all rights to copy and play your own movies on your own hardware? Pure BS. If DRM is supposed to protect the rights of content creators, then it should be allowing me to access and use everything I have created in the manner I choose. But it's not, it's a constant hindrance. Creativity isn't defined by budgets. One shouldn't be required to pay the 100X markup for professional/broadcast grade studio equipment just to be able to manipulate their own created content without restrictions.

People who accept the existence and usage of DRM have already drunk the big media Koolaid.