If Compiz devs want to support KDE it's nothing wrong. KDE doesn't loose on this
Originally Posted by energyman
I was gonna post that suggestion, but you beat me to it. Kwin + plasma = all you really need for desktop effects. I guess they did this just to pacify the diehard compiz users.
Originally Posted by Melcar
Gnome 3 (September 2010) will use the "Mutter" (german "mother" - what a ridiculous name for a WM, but whatever) window manager and it will support desktop effects also (even though you can expect it to be very simple, not even close to KWin). Compiz will probably die then.
Originally Posted by V!NCENT
Can't we move this into a compiz bashing thread in the kde/gnome fanboys forums?
Why? Nobody here is bashing the DE's (in this thread). We are all questioning however questioning yet another braindead effort and waste of resources that compiz has put forward again.
Originally Posted by not.sure
well, back when compiz was started, there was nothing similar available. Compiz had it's warrant.
Unfortunately it was a new and experimental area and the result was a bit hackish, never quite stable, forked and reorganized a lot. And they didn't care much for integration or usability, just for lots of eye candy.
When moving to KDE 4.x, the KDE devs actually considered using compiz, but found it's window manager part beneath the compositor simply lacking. So instead of taking compiz and adding WM features, they took kwin3 and added eye candy.
Not sure what went on with gnome, but it was probably similar.
By now, compiz is a chaotic code-base that has been surpassed by other WMs. But I'd claim that neither kwin4 nor mutter would be as powerful as they are today if it wasn't for compiz, it's experiments and the knowledge it generated.
So, although I never used it and probably never will: thank you, compiz developers, for everything you did.
(I use Kwin)
Kwin is less complete than Compiz/Beryl/Compix Fusion/Compiz++/Compiz again. Plugins in Compiz are much better looking. Even the Wobbly windows effect feel nicer. The Fire on close, Aquarium, 3D window in cube and Expose plugings are much better than the KDE ones, I miss them.
But KWin have deep (deeper at each release) integration with Plasma, better tabbing support (as good as in Fluxbox), more future, more WM features, better integration with virutal desktops, finer per window settings and so on. I hope Kwin will become faster and nicer, but features wise, it is much better.
Last time I had problems with Compiz must have been in the 0.6 branch, right now it's quite stable.
Originally Posted by deanjo
I would mostly use it because I use it right now with gnome and because it has some nice plugins which kwin doesn't.
So, the real question, and that applys for all of open-source, is: Why not?!
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