The reality is that in this particular case I don't care. For whatever reasons the audio was encoded in mp3, so what? Doesn't your machine have mp3 playback capabilities? It's a single audio file to listen once and delete the second later; nothing would change by using other format, except your complaints (hey, that's actually a good reason : ).
I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that it makes no sense to get too anal for a file that everybody can play without problems, as if this was the final battle in the patent wars.
By the way, some people access Phoronix from work, with a Windows machine. I bet those don't have Vorbis support 'out of the box'.
From our other conversations, you know very well yotambien that for me it's important the use of free software. So to say "so what" is like if you want to throw oil in the fire on purpose. I don't want to be forced to use proprietary formats at all and in a site which supports Linux and free software mainly and in an article about Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting, you expect to see a respect to the free software.For whatever reasons the audio was encoded in mp3, so what?
How do you know that is not illegal to my country to use proprietay formats without paying? Also, why are you so sure that I don't have a pure free distro?Doesn't your machine have mp3 playback capabilities?
I see your point. Nothing would change if I throw my rubbish in the street since someone is going to collect them, nothing would change if I don't go to vote in the national elections since there are millions of others to do that, nothing would change if I kill a bear since there are still thousands of them somewhere on the mountains, nothing would change if I waste the water...It's a single audio file to listen once and delete the second later; nothing would change by using other format, except your complaints (hey, that's actually a good reason : ).
I have seen this kind of arguments a lot of times in life. I fyou are happy with them don't try to persuade me that I should be too.
That's the matter? Just to play without problems? I see...I'm not saying that you are wrong, just that it makes no sense to get too anal for a file that everybody can play without problems, as if this was the final battle in the patent wars.
They can install vorbis in the same way I can install mp3 decoder in my Linux machine. I can not understand why this works only from my part...By the way, some people access Phoronix from work, with a Windows machine. I bet those don't have Vorbis support 'out of the box'.
Of course since vorbis is not patent free, using it would be supporting whole concept of software patents. Free to use or not.
Is this really Mr. Legal Problems speaking ?
what happened with all patent-will-kill-your-dog, bury-your-hard-drive and make-Red-Hat-cry-in-the-corner thing ?
this is some aggressive multi-layered trolling i see.
and if you really write about "legal problems" of free software on the opensource site from "windows machine without vorbis/ogg installed" that is something that tells a weight of your words...
i think i will regret about answering honestly about all that but in case you're not playing dumb this time: adding files like this into my opensource-talk collection is really making my teeth cringe "for all the good reasons". not as if it your business and proprietary problems are mine...
This is false.Originally Posted by bugmenot
And I don't think I said you were rude, but overreactive. Let me restate it: I too would expect a Vorbis file from Phoronix, it doesn't follow logically from anything but I would expect it. My point is that I don't think that it deserves all the flak you are giving it, considering the work involved in bringing here that piece of audio and the next-to-zero practical considerations involved.Originally Posted by bugmenot
Good point about Windows. I gave for granted that it had mp3 support out of the box; are you sure about this?
I mean the particular case of Phoronix uploading some audio files from time to time in a format that everybody can play, not the particular case of this conference. We obviously have a different set of priorities and sensibilities, but that's OK.Originally Posted by Apopas
I was going to say "because you live in Greece" (an assumption), but it is more correct to say because you live in planet Earth. If you use a crippled distro, that is your decision and your problem.Originally Posted by Apopas
But that's flawed. Contrary to throwing rubbish in the street or killing a bear, listening to an mp3 file doesn't have any negative consequences to others.Originally Posted by Apopas
That was exactly my point, it works both ways. But Bugmenot has already debunked my assumption that Windows has mp3 support out of the box, so nevermind this.Originally Posted by Apopas
dfx., I'm 100% sure you confused me with somebody else, yes : )