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    Default Unigine Engine Advances, But No Linux Heaven Yet

    Phoronix: Unigine Engine Advances, But No Linux Heaven Yet

    We reported a month ago that Unigine Heaven on Linux is still trash with the ATI driver so Unigine Corp is continuing to hold off on releasing the Unigine Heaven tech demo with the OpenGL renderer that supports hardware tessellation until there is a good Catalyst release. Unigine Heaven was released for Windows 7 back in October on this operating system's launch day using a DirectX 11.0 renderer, but buggy Linux drivers have held back the public Linux-OpenGL build...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODA0Mw

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    I hope when Fermi comes out they still won't be waiting for ATI to fix their drivers to release the linux version.

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    Surely just releasing it and adding a check for nvidia drivers would pressure ATI into fixing their driver faster than not releasing it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    I hope when Fermi comes out they still won't be waiting for ATI to fix their drivers to release the linux version.
    My guess, Nvidia will be first to release working drivers with the Fermi.
    I don't care about ATI, they kind of useless for 3D on Linux.
    Proprietary drivers are buggy and crushing. Open source drivers are even worth. The whole "excitement" about KMS is worthless. I do not know anyone using CRT monitor today (flicker free) and most people does not care about boot process. My 75 years old step father's computer, usually has months long uptimes. What is really important for average user is VIDEO PLAYBACK !!! and STABILITY !!! and gaming.
    The rest is nice to have.

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    Actually, last month it was stated that a "hardware vendor" was holding things up but failed to mention which one. At least that was from Unigine - phoronix has been filling in the rest all on its own. Is there any confirmation that it is currently ATI holding things up?
    I'm all for speculation, so I'm sure ATI's drivers are still holding it up, but I'd just like something a bit more official.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    Actually, last month it was stated that a "hardware vendor" was holding things up but failed to mention which one. At least that was from Unigine - phoronix has been filling in the rest all on its own. Is there any confirmation that it is currently ATI holding things up?
    I'm all for speculation, so I'm sure ATI's drivers are still holding it up, but I'd just like something a bit more official.
    Given that Phoronix and unigine are on pretty good ground dialog wise and phoronix also has a unreleased version of it I would say that the info that ATI is holding up the release is pretty good. Especially since ATI is the only vendor out there that currently has hardware that supports hardware tessellation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    Given that Phoronix and unigine are on pretty good ground dialog wise and phoronix also has a unreleased version of it I would say that the info that ATI is holding up the release is pretty good. Especially since ATI is the only vendor out there that currently has hardware that supports hardware tessellation.

    Nvidia has been releasing videos of The Fermi with what appears to be a "1.1" Heaven build, so it's obvious that they do have the hardware and software to run it. Really, there is no indication that at this point it's AMD that's holding back the demo. Could be, but as long as someone at Unigine comes out saying just that, it's all speculation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melcar View Post
    Nvidia has been releasing videos of The Fermi with what appears to be a "1.1" Heaven build, so it's obvious that they do have the hardware and software to run it. Really, there is no indication that at this point it's AMD that's holding back the demo. Could be, but as long as someone at Unigine comes out saying just that, it's all speculation.
    Did you not read the "way to broken" quote from Denis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    Did you not read the "way to broken" quote from Denis?

    Were are on 10.2 and on to 10.3. The guy was talking about 9.11/9.12 (and most likely referring to support found on earlier releases still). The drivers could have gotten better by now, or not. Point is that the quote is old and you really can't use it now; a lot in the driver has been fixed and even broken since those releases. I want a statement from either AMD or Unigine that says that as of now the drivers are too broken so Heaven on Linux has been delayed until further notice.

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    Well, again that's all speculation. I'm not completely up to speed on the opengl tessellation side of things, and it's also rational to assume that nvidia would like the demo to be released along with Fermi (they have after all been using it quite heavily to show off Fermi).

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