Arch and Gentoo - Which is more hardcore/educational?

[LinuxID10T]

Umm... You know that Ubuntu and OS X took thousands of people to create, and many years to get to the point at which they are now. Comparing infinityOS to either Ubuntu or OS X is unfair. From what I see, you don't do any real in-house development. Personally, I see no reason to install infinityOS, because making the same changes to a vanilla Xubuntu install would only take a few minutes in synaptic. Don't get me wrong, it just frustrates me a bit when I see new people go in and try to beat the people that worked their asses off for years, and they try to do it in a few days.

[darkphoenix22]

...It took me 2 days alone to get Deluge to work on infinityOS without a default user with a interface setup out the box. A lot of the programs I included werent't made to work out of the box. Deluge is the worst example

Even, if alot of the changes can be made in Xubuntu for a single user easily, it is much much harder to get those changes to affect all users.

infinityOS would have been impossible to create with the work of thousands of others and thank the community for it. That still doesn't doesn't mean its easily to package and wrap up free software, and provide support for it. It's alot of work testing and making sure everything works.

[darkphoenix22]

One person can't recreate Linux or Mac OS X from scratch. I've pretty much done all one person can do. :P

[darkphoenix22]

Well, at least in the span of 3 months.

[LinuxID10T]

Why not just use a script to turn a vanilla Xubuntu into infinityOS, or a special package. Just like they do for Ubuntu Studio. I personally think it would make a lot more sense.

[darkphoenix22]

I honestly probably will after 1.0. Just haven't gotten around to it yet.

infinityOS is designed to be more of a patch on Ubuntu then a distribution on its own. I honestly have tried to keep all the infinityOS customizations separate from the Xubuntu and Ubuntu settings for this reason.

Eventually, my goal is to make a infinityos-desktop package that you can install on Ubuntu to turn it into infinityOS (Well close to it anyways. You'll still have the useless Ubuntu services like PulseAudio). All the updated packages in my repos are fully compatible with Ubuntu Karmic, so you can just add my repos to take advantage of the semi-rolling updating system. You won't get the customizations that way though, as I haven't gotten around to packaging them.

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BTW I do intend on contributing code. Just haven't had time to as I have been making the platform. You can't make a painting without a canvas.

Here are some of my ideas for new features in infinityOS 2.0 Zaphod.

- Full Twitter/Facebook integration in Thunar, Banshee, SMPlayer and Deluge. I want you guys to be able to talk to your friends straight through the OS itself and the programs you use. Hell, I want you to be able to chat about music you're listening too, the videos you're watching and the files you're downloading through the programs themselves. I have contacted the developer of Gwibber to help me with this.

- Full IMDB integration in Thunar, Deluge and SMPlayer. I want you guys to be able to seamlessly get all the information on movies/TV shows as you are downloading them, browsing them, and watching them.

Eventually, I want to make the Internet and infinityOS to be seemlessly integrated, so much so there will be no distinction between using one or the other. I basically want to make infinityOS the proverbial semantic desktop.

Most of this stuff will be trivial to implement as I have deliberately chosen all of the included applications to have plugins/replaceable interfaces. However, I will need all the help I can get.

[monraaf]

Hey wait a minute! I thought this topic was about Arch and Gentoo. But it seems every thread you open ends up in a discussion (or perhaps monologue is the beter word here) about "infinityOS". Enough already. You are even worse than Kano

[darkphoenix22]

I do enjoy my monologues......

Yes, perhaps it is best that we move the discussion of infinityOS over to the thread I created in "Distributions".

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23234

[darkphoenix22]

Back on the topic of the LFS build, I almost have departmental approval to do the reading course.

[squirrl]

You could build you're distribution's packages without apparmor or selinux. I've never understood why debian and fedora wouldnt offer the two versions.