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    Default From Dapper To Lucid, Four Years Of Ubuntu Benchmarks

    Phoronix: From Dapper To Lucid, Four Years Of Ubuntu Benchmarks

    Last week we shared that we were benchmarking Ubuntu's current and past LTS releases and began by running graphics benchmarks looking at how the proprietary drivers from the past compare to open-source drivers from the present, but now we have our assortment of system benchmarks to publish from the Long-Term Support releases of Ubuntu 6.06.1, Ubuntu 8.04.4, and an Ubuntu 10.04 development snapshot. In this article, we are looking at how Ubuntu's performance has evolved over the past four years.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=14770

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    How am I supposed to choose Ubuntu for servers with such big regressions in server apps(Apache and PostgreSQL)?
    The four year old release beat the other releases by a really large margin! A lot of devs here at work use Ubuntu, but I think Ubuntu is just to bleeding edge for the production enviroment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talvik View Post
    How am I supposed to choose Ubuntu for servers with such big regressions in server apps(Apache and PostgreSQL)?
    The four year old release beat the other releases by a really large margin! A lot of devs here at work use Ubuntu, but I think Ubuntu is just to bleeding edge for the production enviroment.
    Use different file system or mount options. Article explains why there are such differences... Btw. you should probably care about data integrity?

    Other benchmarks at Phoronix have shown similar performance drops in Apache when using EXT4. Of course, we are just looking at the performance numbers, but the data stored on the EXT4 file-system should be more reliable and offer other benefits not shown within benchmark results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kraftman View Post
    Use different file system or mount options. Article explains why there are such differences... Btw. you should probably care about data integrity?
    There is still a regression in postgresql from 6.06 to 8.04 in the same filesystem. I think ext3 is quite reliable, hasn't it proven itself all these years in most linux servers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by talvik View Post
    There is still a regression in postgresql from 6.06 to 8.04 in the same filesystem. I think ext3 is quite reliable, hasn't it proven itself all these years in most linux servers?
    EXT 3 is alright but isn't futureproof (because of the sizelimit). Also, I imagine that if someone's making a new server right now he cares more about de reliability then about the speed (in which case EXT4 is a better choice).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaestroMaus View Post
    EXT 3 is alright but isn't futureproof (because of the sizelimit). Also, I imagine that if someone's making a new server right now he cares more about de reliability then about the speed (in which case EXT4 is a better choice).
    This is about filesystem integrity and not about reliability. A kernel patch can only increase reliability if it can keep disks from failing, which is not possible, unless you consider the pseudo-disk that you get when you run RAID, but since this is not about RAID, such details are irrelevant.

    Anyway, filesystem integrity is not very important if it renders the server incapable of performing its job, and while whatever caused the regressions should help with integrity, it is a poor substitute for backups, which should be done on a regular basis regardless of what mount options are used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talvik View Post
    There is still a regression in postgresql from 6.06 to 8.04 in the same filesystem.
    It's possible default mount options changed between releases. Afaik they were also modified quite long ago (maybe between 6.06 and 8.04?).

    I think ext3 is quite reliable, hasn't it proven itself all these years in most linux servers?
    Yes, Ext3 should be reliable and I don't know why Ext4 wants to be, so "super" reliable as some results may suggest. I'd like Ubuntu to be set to maximum performance (it has even debugging enabled...) and only Ubuntu Server Edition to use some safer options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by talvik View Post
    How am I supposed to choose Ubuntu for servers with such big regressions in server apps(Apache and PostgreSQL)?
    I'd say there are better reasons than that not to use Ubuntu for any kind of serious server; it's fine for a home NAS and the like, but IMHO it's far too 'bleeding edge' for a server which has to be reliable and secure 24/7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    I'd say there are better reasons than that not to use Ubuntu for any kind of serious server; it's fine for a home NAS and the like, but IMHO it's far too 'bleeding edge' for a server which has to be reliable and secure 24/7.
    Bleeding edge can be a good thing when new versions of software fix more bugs than they introduce.

    This is part of the reason why I would use Gentoo Linux if I ran my own server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by movieman View Post
    I'd say there are better reasons than that not to use Ubuntu for any kind of serious server; it's fine for a home NAS and the like, but IMHO it's far too 'bleeding edge' for a server which has to be reliable and secure 24/7.
    Well, I use Ubuntu for the server I administer since version 7.10 and it has always been very reliable (well, except when I had to use experimental git code and -rc kernels to get what I wanted, but that's not Ubuntu's fault). Given these results, I think I'll keep ext3 (over lvm over raid1) until btrfs is stable.

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