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    Default How is Mono worse than other projects that implement Microsoft technologies?

    How is Mono worse than other projects which provide an alternative implementation of Microsoft technologies and APIs?

    How is Mono worse than Wine? Why should I hate Mono and not hate Wine for the same reasons?

    Are people who have a profound hate for Mono hypocritical for not sharing the same hate for Wine and other projects that implement Microsoft technologies and APIs?

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    Patents.

    As I see it, the issue isn't the technology itself per-se, it's the implementation. Some parts of Mono are not covered by the community promise made my microsoft.

    Miguel de Icaza even admitted that himself: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Jul-06.html

    Astute readers will point out that Mono contains much more than the ECMA standards, and they will be correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsynoKhi0 View Post
    Patents.

    As I see it, the issue isn't the technology itself per-se, it's the implementation. Some parts of Mono are not covered by the community promise made my microsoft.

    Miguel de Icaza even admitted that himself: http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2009/Jul-06.html
    So effing what?

    Wine is not covered by a community promise at all, so it's even worse - yet noone cares. I wonder why that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    So effing what?

    Wine is not covered by a community promise at all, so it's even worse - yet noone cares. I wonder why that is.
    Probably nobody will sue you for playing Windows games. Wine isn't a core part of Linux distribution and mono boys want to make Linux mono dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    So effing what?

    Wine is not covered by a community promise at all, so it's even worse - yet noone cares. I wonder why that is.
    Because Wine doesn't need it:
    http://lwn.net/Articles/315804/

    We're back to the implementation bit.

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    Mono is a white room implementation of .Net, just like Wine is a white room implementation of the win32 API.

    Patent problems affect both equally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    Mono is a white room implementation of .Net, just like Wine is a white room implementation of the win32 API.

    Patent problems affect both equally.
    So it doesn't matter if you're running Mono applications or applications under Wine? If the answer is yes (and it probably is) Mono is an enemy of Linux. Conclusion is simple: mono applications should be avoided. Imagine, some people want to make major Linux DE dependent on Mono, so it's like running MS applications under Wine instead of native, patent free, GPL Linux applications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    Mono is a white room implementation of .Net, just like Wine is a white room implementation of the win32 API.

    Patent problems affect both equally.
    Absolutely Wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    Mono is a white room implementation of .Net, just like Wine is a white room implementation of the win32 API.

    Patent problems affect both equally.
    This is the salient answer boys and girls

    Why hasn't MS gone after the Wine guys yet then?

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    Question What is "white room" ???

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackStar View Post
    Mono is a white room implementation of .Net, just like Wine is a white room implementation of the win32 API.

    Patent problems affect both equally.
    I've never heard about a "white room" methodology, unless you actually meant "white box". Regardless the statement is still incorrect, as wine was developed with a "black box" methodology. I'm not even sure why you mentioned the development methodology, as it's primary concern is to avoid claims of copyright. In regards to potential patent claims, you're correct to assume both wine and mono could be vulnerable.

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