Page 3 of 19 FirstFirst 1234513 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 184

Thread: ATI and Linux compatibility

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    880

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Panix View Post
    Check the Ubuntu forums. Search '5770'. Tons of posts about problems. Not being able to boot because of blank or black screens. Needing runarounds, workarounds or scripts to just use your computer. This is a distro that ATI claims support. I guess 9.10 works with 1.7 but Ubuntu has gone to the next stable release, Lucid, 10.04, and X.org has moved on, too? But, hordes of problems/issues. I guess the workarounds are working for some (booting to safe or low graphics mode and installing the fglrx driver but still...).
    Yeh, I was hoping for solid support in 10.04 with 10.4 but it seems not to be the case. I've postponed the gfx card for another two months or so in the hope of things improving and have instead bought an SSD. When the next fglrx lands if support isn't solid by then that'll mean nVidia for sure.

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,002

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mugginz View Post
    Given the level of support for Evergreen and FOSS drivers, I assumed he was talking about fglrx.
    Ubuntu does not ship with fglrx installed. The default driver is the oss driver. Unfortunately for Evergreen cards that driver not very useful at the moment. On top of that Ubuntu ships with UMS for Evergreen which is known to be broken, so people get a black screen before they even get a chance to install fglrx.

    They should have just sticked to VESA for Evergreen. This is just making Ubuntu and/or ATI look bad.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    880

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by monraaf View Post
    Ubuntu does not ship with fglrx installed. The default driver is the oss driver. Unfortunately for Evergreen cards that driver not very useful at the moment. On top of that Ubuntu ships with UMS for Evergreen which is known to be broken, so people get a black screen before they even get a chance to install fglrx.

    They should have just sticked to VESA for Evergreen. This is just making Ubuntu and/or ATI look bad.

    Yeh but in Ubuntu fglrx is just a few clicks away (and a few crashes as well)

    It would seem that if you use Linux then don't buy an Evergreen card yet and if you already have one then use Windows.

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    1,002

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by mugginz View Post
    Yeh but in Ubuntu fglrx is just a few clicks away (and a few crashes as well)
    It's very hard to click when all you've got is a black screen

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    880

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by monraaf View Post
    It's very hard to click when all you've got is a black screen
    Not if it works until you install fglrx

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Posts
    32

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    - If you want to use wine a lot (I will never understand this type of linux user, please boot up windows and really enjoy your games) your card should be nvidia, because wine has better support for it.
    I have neither the time nor the inclination to acquire a Windows license and learn enough about Windows security to maintain a secure Windows system.

    WINE could be slow and crashy running WoW, but it offered me a better experience than I had running Windows a few years back, and I am not about to go back to Windows.

    So there really is a reason to do this, even though it may seem odd.

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    2,938

    Default

    The FOSS driver and power management doesn't work according to what I read. I'm not sure about drm and I don't know if that's something everyone uses or just 'beta' (experimental) in which you can expect bugs again.
    So what are you reading?

    If you don't know for sure, why are you spreading FUD?

    FOSS drivers have dynamic powersaving with the vanilla 2.6.34 kernels today, and 2.6.35 will bring even better powersaving in a couple of months.

    The drm-radeon-testing branch is indeed an experimental branch of the kernel, but parts of it get merged into the mainstream Linus kernel regularly.

    Both the binary nVidia driver and the binary ATi driver are better at powersaving at the moment than the radeon FOSS driver, but at least try to stick to the facts, please.

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    328

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by monraaf View Post
    Unfortunately for Evergreen cards that driver not very useful at the moment. On top of that Ubuntu ships with UMS for Evergreen which is known to be broken, so people get a black screen before they even get a chance to install fglrx.
    Ubuntu fault then, what I am really interested is to know if once you installed correctly fglrx 10.4 ati evergreen system is running fine and stable?? I would love to have an evergreen to test my self.

    I guess a lot of plp are blaming ati without having one, or without trying for them selfs. They read other people that blame too and they got infected, then an anti-ati plague is formed in phoronix phorums . Ati 4000 series, as I said, are working pretty well. And of course ati has powersave, who spread the rumor that ati doesn't have?


    aticonfig --od-getclocks

    Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
    Core (MHz) Memory (MHz)
    Current Clocks : 110 250
    Current Peak : 600 400
    Configurable Peak Range : [300-800] [400-700]
    GPU load : 0%

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    328

    Default

    nah! the answer is easy, in the windows 7 article Michael configured (an FirePro V8800, which is their first workstation graphics card derived from an ATI Evergreen graphics processor) and run all type of test. So I guess that ati evergreen is working fine once you install fglrx driver!!

  10. #30
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    880

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Ubuntu fault then, what I am really interested is to know if once you installed correctly fglrx 10.4 ati evergreen system is running fine and stable?? I would love to have an evergreen to test my self.
    As would I but I'm not going to buy one myself given the amount of reported problems with them at the moment. While nVidia is not perfect there doesn't seem to be the same level of basic failure as there is with fglrx.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    I guess a lot of plp are blaming ati without having one, or without trying for them selfs. They read other people that blame too and they got infected, then an anti-ati plague is formed in phoronix phorums .
    People rightly are basing their purchasing decisions on the successes and failures of others. Of course you want to know what you're getting yourself into before you buy, not after.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Ati 4000 series, as I said, are working pretty well. And of course ati has powersave, who spread the rumor that ati doesn't have?
    Yes but that's not a 5000 series card. To get power management there you either need to upgrade your kernel (not something everyones comfortable with) or run fglrx (again, not something everyones comfortable with )

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    aticonfig --od-getclocks

    Default Adapter - ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
    Core (MHz) Memory (MHz)
    Current Clocks : 110 250
    Current Peak : 600 400
    Configurable Peak Range : [300-800] [400-700]
    GPU load : 0%

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •