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    Default AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux

    Phoronix: AMD Radeon HD 4290 On Linux

    Last week we delivered benchmarks of the AMD Athlon II X3 425 processor running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS while this week we are continuing in benchmarks from this triple-core budget processor as we try out its gaming performance when paired with an AMD 890GX motherboard boasting integrated Radeon HD 4290 graphics.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=14898

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    How exactly are the results disappointing? There's a reason it is called 4290, of course the 3D performance is not higher. The chip is great for what it was made for. I agree however, that nVidia can be the better option if you want to use it for a HTPC and you want to use proprietary drivers, as Xv and XvBA are still issues with the Catalyst driver.

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    Question: why the hell is AMD being so secretive about XvBA? It's just an API! WTF? Not that I care about having access to it myself; I use the open-source driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waucka View Post
    Question: why the hell is AMD being so secretive about XvBA? It's just an API! WTF? Not that I care about having access to it myself; I use the open-source driver.
    Isn't it just a good thing AMD isn't pushing their own decoding API on Linux? There are already way too many.

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    "If you're interested in video playback under Linux for an HTPC system, you're really best off buying a NVIDIA graphics card that supports VDPAU for the best Linux video experience possible using NVIDIA's binary drivers."

    Is that really necessary? I'm looking to build a budget low-power HTPC (combined client/server), but I'd rather not use proprietary drivers. Having seen your disappointing benchmark of the Core i3 integrated and now this I don't know what to buy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCycoONE View Post
    I'm looking to build a budget low-power HTPC (combined client/server), but I'd rather not use proprietary drivers. Having seen your disappointing benchmark of the Core i3 integrated and now this I don't know what to buy.
    If you want to go the nvidia way there are still some geforce8200/8300 AM3 motherboards if you look around, although AFAIK they are all DDR2 models. They can be paired with an Athlon II X3, like the one used in this review, that can easily be operated at lower than stock voltages. My Athlon II X4 is running completely stable at 1,225V although I haven't tested lower voltages yet. This would be a really low power system and very cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCycoONE View Post
    "If you're interested in video playback under Linux for an HTPC system, you're really best off buying a NVIDIA graphics card that supports VDPAU for the best Linux video experience possible using NVIDIA's binary drivers."

    Is that really necessary? I'm looking to build a budget low-power HTPC (combined client/server), but I'd rather not use proprietary drivers. Having seen your disappointing benchmark of the Core i3 integrated and now this I don't know what to buy.
    If you absolutely don't want proprietary drivers, your only solution is the Core i3. However, I wouldn't call that an HTPC either since the CPU + integrated GPU is 73W, thus requiring a noisy cooling system.

    The best candidate for a small HTPC is something like a Fit-PC2 with Atom Z5xx+US15W. However, if you are a normal end-user, you will get a hard time getting updates for the most current distribution. So, the second best solution is something based on Atom + NVIDIA ION.

    Another solution might be some Atom N4xx + a Broadcom Crystal HD video decoder. You can still have OSS drivers for the whole platform (modulo a firmware for the Crystal HD) but the GMA 3150 performance would probably not match your expectations.

    There is no competing solution with AMD HW yet. You will have to wait for Bobcat, which will be a very serious competitor, if decent drivers follow. Yes, I strongly believe in the HW, but I have great fears for the drivers...

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    For desktop usage and desktop effects I would say it would still be good enough. Gaming is a rather different aspect all together.

    You have Xv CPU bound playback whit the open source drivers. Though whit my own HD3200 whit fresh install of Ubuntu 10.4 the Xv isn't flawless. Though I must say I haven't checked in on tweaking playback yet which I've done over in the Windows side.
    There are a few tearing artifacts now and then I noticed, then the lack of a yet found Re-clock alternative for 24p->25p real time PAL speedup. Which is a thing I really really like

    Though I must say there should be more "games" in the test.

    Whit a HD3200 I can manage quite well over at the Windows side even concerning gaming at 1920x1200 resolution.

    I play Stepmania 3.9 & 4.0 all good. I even play Oblivion whit just there in the "playbale" fps in 1920x1200. Though I have far from maximized the settings.

    There is quite a lot of power in there if you look at it right. Then there are loads of old games...

    But the main thing... I think it's not completely fair to only test the integrated graphics in a full-hd resolution of 1920x1080p. If you play games I think many will use lower resolutions!

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    Hu?
    You say there is a GNU/Linux Debian Ubuntu build optimized for AMD?

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    When xvba/vaapi would work correctly then it would much more interesting than playing games in full hd with igp.

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