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Thread: It's Official: Valve Releasing Steam, Source Engine For Linux!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebwt View Post
    That really depends on how up to date your PA install is.

    PA is working to wrap up all former audio packages into a single meta server. It is closest thing we've ever ad to a unified sound system.
    I don't want a freaking sound server. What's wrong with: app -> library -> driver -> sound card

    Do the mixing in kernel for all I care, but enough with this server nonsense. And as long as pulseaudio keeps spamming my log files with stuff like this:

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    pulseaudio[1505]: ratelimit.c: 280 events suppressed
    It will always be crap to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svartalf View Post
    They think we're a bunch of pirates
    Considering the number of individuals arguing against copyright on Linux and tech forums and considering the flames that result from people pointing out commercial alternatives on the platform, it is a fair assessment.

    A bad generalization, but a fair assessment.

    I still don't get why this (Steam, etc...) is as more of a big deal than the Humble Bundle- which pinned real numbers that actually looked GOOD for Linux gaming and will have as much or more of an impact than this stuff will for the medium-term story on things.
    I'd wager that more people want to play Counter-Strike than Lugaru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yfrwlf View Post
    True, I can see that for server apps of course, and for clients since OS X is so similar, I could see developing on Linux instead of having to buy Macs for all the developers, then just using a few to finalize the Mac version.

    While I appreciate Phoronix covering Linux news, they have officially hit a new low for me with these articles, this is flat-out shoddy reporting and/or was a complete lie to drum up hype for this site or to get Linux users to bombard Steam with "WHEN IS THE LINUX CLIENT COMING?!?!?!", so unless they've signed an inside deal that they "can't talk about" and know something other than "there's some Linux client files", it's still speculation and hope as to whether or not Valve will come out with official Linux client support. You can hope, but sadly that's far from official news from Valve that they are going to support Linux.

    Yet, here I am on Phoronix making a fuss about something they said, so I guess the news worked on me as intended...sorta.

    Phoronix should apologize to all its readers for linking to articles with no basis for their claims whatsoever, sites which were probably referring back to Phoronix as so many have already done. Whether this was done knowingly or not by Phoronix, at the very least it still shows Phoronix's poor news reporting skills and its hype machine.

    I think they've been drinking too much of that beer they keep proudly showing off for some reason.
    apple just payes valve to not speak abaut the linux version!

    michael only send out a NDA Information because valve talks to him abaut the linux clind..

    but after that apple comes to valve and now the linux community must wait 1 week longer

    valve comes out with the linuc clind be sure michael is just only to fast...

    just wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ad_267 View Post
    I didn't mean that it would be difficult to port the games so that they run on different distributions, but rather that it would be difficult to provide support for users when they have problems. Just take a look at the Ubuntu forums and the number of users having audio problems with games. It isn't usually something the game developer has done wrong, but rather there's an issue with the driver for their particular hardware or a problem with pulse audio etc. If steam provided a Linux client they'd probably have a lot of Linux users with issues wanting support.
    It's no different than the issues Windows users might have- or that they don't already encounter. I know from experience doing triage and some fixes for one of the Big Two on the OpenGL front under Windows as a contractor. In the end, everyone keeps thinking it's "easy" in the Windows world which is why they do the development- it's not, it's just different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_berra View Post
    Considering the number of individuals arguing against copyright on Linux and tech forums and considering the flames that result from people pointing out commercial alternatives on the platform, it is a fair assessment.

    A bad generalization, but a fair assessment.
    Being against copyright on Linux and flame-fests do not pirates make.

    I'd hesitate to be even claiming a fair assessment.

    To be against Copyright does not relate to breaking those rights via infringement either. Heck, the Windows crowd is as bad or worse in that regard (they actually commit infringements, using the same sorts of arguments, which is where they're probably getting the idea we're in with that crowd...)- but yet they don't not make software for the Windows userbase... Size? Hardly. Piracy's just an excuse to NOT do something or to inflict DRM the likes of which EA did with Spore and a few others- or the idiocy Ubisoft's after doing these days.

    I'd wager that more people want to play Counter-Strike than Lugaru.
    Indeed. The big thing though is that there is no official statement towards the former yet- and rumors are all well and good, but there's a limit to what you can say about things when you're under NDA or relating a reliable source's statements on things. Once you go past that point, your credibility starts to suffer at least a bit. It's part of why some are calling for apologies, etc. even though they're not yet warranted.

    However, there's other big deals that we DO know about that're not getting as much coverage as this bit of what is still pretty vaporous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    apple just payes valve to not speak abaut the linux version!

    michael only send out a NDA Information because valve talks to him abaut the linux clind..

    but after that apple comes to valve and now the linux community must wait 1 week longer

    valve comes out with the linuc clind be sure michael is just only to fast...

    just wait!
    What is realy going on is that Gnome prevents Valve from using Qt and Linus Torvalds himself was hired to work for Apple so he could secretly replace Darwin with Linux and Valve has already made a Linux version but now Linus torvald has to port Gtk to Qt. In order to not raise any suspicion Michael was threatened by Apple lawyers not to tell about the Apple code stealing move and now Obama has ordered to let journalist say that they heared it from Phoronix or else he will throw bombs at the poor people in Africa.

    The above made Mark Shuttleworth pee in his pants and made sure the Cult of the Dead Cow would strangle Michael into an NDA because the cDc has the power to block Michaels Ubuntu downloads due to their super bloodshed skillz0rs.

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    Makes perfect sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V!NCENT View Post
    What is realy going on is that Gnome prevents Valve from using Qt and Linus Torvalds himself was hired to work for Apple so he could secretly replace Darwin with Linux and Valve has already made a Linux version but now Linus torvald has to port Gtk to Qt. In order to not raise any suspicion Michael was threatened by Apple lawyers not to tell about the Apple code stealing move and now Obama has ordered to let journalist say that they heared it from Phoronix or else he will throw bombs at the poor people in Africa.

    The above made Mark Shuttleworth pee in his pants and made sure the Cult of the Dead Cow would strangle Michael into an NDA because the cDc has the power to block Michaels Ubuntu downloads due to their super bloodshed skillz0rs.
    Yep, you exposed it all. The world is now going to end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by V!NCENT View Post
    What is realy going on is that Gnome prevents Valve from using Qt and Linus Torvalds himself was hired to work for Apple so he could secretly replace Darwin with Linux and Valve has already made a Linux version but now Linus torvald has to port Gtk to Qt. In order to not raise any suspicion Michael was threatened by Apple lawyers not to tell about the Apple code stealing move and now Obama has ordered to let journalist say that they heared it from Phoronix or else he will throw bombs at the poor people in Africa.

    The above made Mark Shuttleworth pee in his pants and made sure the Cult of the Dead Cow would strangle Michael into an NDA because the cDc has the power to block Michaels Ubuntu downloads due to their super bloodshed skillz0rs.
    LOOOOOOOOOOOL nice

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    Why should I want to have DRM on my GNU/Linux box?

    Thanks, but no thanks. Actually, I couldn't care less.

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