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    Default Unigine Heaven Update Coming With OpenGL Tessellation

    Phoronix: Unigine Heaven Update Coming With OpenGL Tessellation

    We have heard from Denis Shergin, the CEO of Unigine Corp, that an update to Unigine Heaven is imminent. Heaven is their beautiful but demanding technology demo / benchmark that launched last year with a DirectX 11.0 renderer and then in March reached version 2.0 and was released for Linux (finally) with an OpenGL renderer...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODI2Mg

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    embrassing...for ATI/AMD.

    they released their HD5000 series like 6 months (or such) ago...and even after that long time (not taking in the time when they knew that tesselation would be in the 5000 series) they have not been able to give tesselation to linux.

    and here comes nvidia (which i hate...I'm an ATI/AMD fanboy, and I hate intel and nvidia), releases the card and the driver...something ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago...they should fire their whole marketing devision and get some ppl who do something what is worth paying for... i.e.: developing drivers or graphiccards...

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    It's made worse that the new nvidia Fermi cards completely and utterly suck. So we go with cards that can't do it, or overpriced, power consuming heat-blasters that have worse performance than the Radeon counterparts (drivers aside).

    Riiight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detructor View Post
    and here comes nvidia (which i hate...I'm an ATI/AMD fanboy, and I hate intel and nvidia), releases the card and the driver...something ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago...
    I'm sure asking will only make things worse, but exactly what do you feel "ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago" and how was that promise made ?

    For the last three years I have been hearing about promises we allegedly made, but I don't think I have found a single case where that was actually true.

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    This is the internet, desire = promised or guaranteed, obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgman View Post
    I'm sure asking will only make things worse, but exactly what do you feel "ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago" and how was that promise made ?

    For the last three years I have been hearing about promises we allegedly made, but I don't think I have found a single case where that was actually true.
    they promised that when they release a card, the driver will be available on the same day for linux...AFAIK it was even worth an article on phoronix...ah found it: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...volution&num=1

    AMD has not only provided same-day support for their just-announced Radeon HD 4800 "RV770" series, but they're now beginning to ship the Linux drivers on the retail CDs included with these newest graphics cards. In addition, AMD is very close to reaching feature parity between their Windows and Linux drivers.
    ok, they didn't promised sorry...my fault, I thought they did that... shame on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgman View Post
    I'm sure asking will only make things worse, but exactly what do you feel "ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago" and how was that promise made ?

    For the last three years I have been hearing about promises we allegedly made, but I don't think I have found a single case where that was actually true.

    Promise or not, I can "see" you're the first one to be emberassed, because this situation is emberassing

    It's not a problem for me, the important is that the oss driver keeps moving, and this is what we should all care of.
    Just leave AMD alone with their fglrx driver until it does a big-crunch once for all. Because that's what is going to happen between 2011-2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bridgman View Post
    I'm sure asking will only make things worse, but exactly what do you feel "ATI/AMD PROMISED to linuxers some months ago" and how was that promise made ?

    For the last three years I have been hearing about promises we allegedly made, but I don't think I have found a single case where that was actually true.
    Maybe not promise but more advertise. AMD/ATI say we support OpenGL but now we have an Company that say the OPenGL Implementation from AMD/ATI is buggy and not usable ( There are some more companies that say that ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nille View Post
    Maybe not promise but more advertise. AMD/ATI say we support OpenGL but now we have an Company that say the OPenGL Implementation from AMD/ATI is buggy and not usable ( There are some more companies that say that ).
    To be fair, it was more phoronix saying that than anyone else. Unigine did have some issues with AMD's drivers at one point, but those issues were solved for quite some time before the demo release.
    Also, AMD's drivers are typically best used when you stick to the opengl spec as strictly as possible, which many people don't do (even I've been caught out by it sometimes). AMD isn't always to blame; sometimes the developers need to fix their code instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    Also, AMD's drivers are typically best used when you stick to the opengl spec as strictly as possible, which many people don't do (even I've been caught out by it sometimes). AMD isn't always to blame; sometimes the developers need to fix their code instead.
    I'd actually say that it's about 60% or so of the time it's the developer that oopsed something in their code- like you said, many don't apply a strict interpretation of the meanings in the spec docs. It's a source of recurring gotchas within many titles. They didn't get a shader coded right and missed a key value which NVidia supplies, but AMD doesn't. They didn't pay attention to the "may" in the spec doc and presumed it was a possibility- but it wasn't going to happen to them. That sort of thing.

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