I've never had the feeling that Ubuntu was slow. In fact when it comes to things that really matter to the ordinary desktop user, it's blazingly fast. You can pop in an Ubuntu Live-CD and have the system installed and running in 15 minutes. Combine that with the fast boot times and ease of use, and you can see why it's so popular. IMHO other distros should take note.
You guys can rant all you want about Gentoo's "superiority", but really there aren't many people out there who have the patience to wait 13 hours before their OS is done compiling just to check out if the claims from the Gentoo advocates are true. That's insane, and that's why Gentoo will always be a marginal distro.
It's not a competition with anyone - it's about personal choice, kind of one of the strengths of Linux. The majority of new users will be attracted towards a more simple setup which does things for them - Gentoo is more easily customised, but requires the user to do a lot more, and results in not so simple a setup procedure, so naturally will attract a different crowd.
I don't see any of this as making Gentoo better or worse than any other distro.
I must be tired - I don't see the contradiction, but I'll reword anyway.
Gentoo is more easily customised after a relatively difficult setup procedure (for new people).
By setup procedure I mean the base system - before you really start adding in the extra things you want (like X, web browsers, gnome/kde/whatever, ssh, etc). I suppose my own definition of setup caused some confusion - apologies there.
I also like Ubuntu for other reasons - it's gaining popularity, and provides a good system for companies, and hence more support from companies for linux.
It's not about superiority, it is about different choices for different people.You guys can rant all you want about Gentoo's "superiority", but really there aren't many people out there who have the patience to wait 13 hours before their OS is done compiling just to check out if the claims from the Gentoo advocates are true. That's insane, and that's why Gentoo will always be a marginal distro.
Over the 6 years that I've been running Gentoo, I've had to install exactly two times (once for each computer I've had during this time).
With the Ubuntu way, I would have had to reinstall 24 times -- twice a year, corresponding to the regular Ubuntu release schedule.
So the compile time needed the first time you install the distro is a moot point -- since it's a rolling distro, you only need to do it once.
I understand that some Gentoo script kiddies come off as abrasive and annoying and condescending, but do try to pick the right arguments.
Boot speed of Ubuntu is NOT one of them, at least when compared to Gentoo :P