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Thread: PHP-GTK is getting increasingly stale - any comment?

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    Default PHP-GTK is getting increasingly stale - any comment?

    The project's website (http://gtk.php.net/) looks like it's been neglected for over a year. There are some bad links in the resources section, and the last news update was the 28th of May, 2009. The latest version doesn't support php 5.3 (it was released in 2008).

    How will the Phoronix Test Suite's GUI frontend cope if/when PHP-GTK gets too obsolete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StringCheesian View Post
    The project's website (http://gtk.php.net/) looks like it's been neglected for over a year. There are some bad links in the resources section, and the last news update was the 28th of May, 2009. The latest version doesn't support php 5.3 (it was released in 2008).

    How will the Phoronix Test Suite's GUI frontend cope if/when PHP-GTK gets too obsolete?
    I'm trying to get the gui up and running and this has been a roadblock for me too. Why is this necessary? I know many linux users are comfortable with the CLI but I think the GUI is predominant these days for a reason. Making it (the gui) impossible to use without this module (which isn't in any ubuntu repositories) is frustrating.

    I tried installing php-gtk using this PPA: http://php-gtk.eu/en/ubuntu-repository-with-php-gtk
    but I now get this:

    nicholas@ubuntu:~$ phoronix-test-suite gui
    PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant IS_NVIDIA_LINUX - assumed 'IS_NVIDIA_LINUX' in /usr/share/phoronix-test-suite/pts-core/objects/phodevi/components/phodevi_system.php on line 1052
    PHP Fatal error: Class 'GtkWindow' not found in /usr/share/phoronix-test-suite/pts-core/objects/gtk/pts_gtk_window.php on line 24

    Any comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onecallednick View Post
    IPHP Fatal error: Class 'GtkWindow' not found in /usr/share/phoronix-test-suite/pts-core/objects/gtk/pts_gtk_window.php on line 24

    Any comment?
    You still don't have PHP5-GTK loaded. Either the Debian package you installed was for PHP 5.2.x on an older Ubuntu release or you don't have the extension loaded within a php.ini file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StringCheesian View Post
    The project's website (http://gtk.php.net/) looks like it's been neglected for over a year. There are some bad links in the resources section, and the last news update was the 28th of May, 2009. The latest version doesn't support php 5.3 (it was released in 2008).
    Using their latest code should work with PHP 5.3... I've got it working atop the Ubuntu 10.04 LTS PHP stack that is using PHP 5.3.

    The state of the PHP5-GTK project though is indeed sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by StringCheesian View Post
    How will the Phoronix Test Suite's GUI frontend cope if/when PHP-GTK gets too obsolete?
    The GTK2 GUI would be dropped and users would be forced to use the CLI or one of the web-based solutions for the Phoronix Test Suite controls (like Phoromatic or what's about to come).

    There is a PHP5 Qt module but it's in an even more sour state than PHP5 GTK and besides that there is no other good UI module.

    Quote Originally Posted by onecallednick View Post
    I'm trying to get the gui up and running and this has been a roadblock for me too. Why is this necessary? I know many linux users are comfortable with the CLI but I think the GUI is predominant these days for a reason. Making it (the gui) impossible to use without this module (which isn't in any ubuntu repositories) is frustrating.
    I'd estimate 95%+ of the professional users are running the phoronix-test-suite CLI interface.

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    Who the hell writes a desktop UI in PHP anyway? That's like eww! Not surprised at all the project is dying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monraaf View Post
    Who the hell writes a desktop UI in PHP anyway? That's like eww! Not surprised at all the project is dying.
    PHP's actually worked out really well for the phoronix-test-suite itself aside from the GTK2 problems.

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    I'm sure it would make kind of sense for a web based UI. But I sure as hell ain't gonna install PHP on my desktop just to run some program. And I don't think I'm the only one who feels that way. So in my point of view you're kinda limiting your audience.

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    Many do feel that way, but it's only going to be until PTS will be a killer app enough.

    I don't want most interpreted crap on my boxen, php python lua ruby, yet I do have python now as there was a killer app :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by curaga View Post
    Many do feel that way, but it's only going to be until PTS will be a killer app enough.

    I don't want most interpreted crap on my boxen, php python lua ruby, yet I do have python now as there was a killer app :P
    At least for Python, most Linux distros would be broken without it. I know that the yum package manager which is used by RHEL and Fedora is written in Python. The portage system in Gentoo is also Python.

    Perhaps Python would have been better suited for PTS?

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    On a side note, if PTS is the biggest PHP-gtk user, maybe Phoronix could sponsor a dev on it?

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