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Thread: Open-Source ARM Mali T-Series Graphics Move Along

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    Default Open-Source ARM Mali T-Series Graphics Move Along

    Phoronix: Open-Source ARM Mali T-Series Graphics Move Along

    A few weeks back at FOSDEM was a presentation by Luc Verhaegen on the Tamil Driver, which is focused on bringing open-source graphics driver support to ARM's Mali T-Series and is the successor to his former Lima driver for older Mali graphics hardware...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...-Mali-T-Series

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    What is the point of writing a driver and not trying to inline it in Mesa? How it will be usable en masses?

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    Maybe finish the first driver before starting a second one, I dare say...

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    You misspelled Midgard....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago View Post
    What is the point of writing a driver and not trying to inline it in Mesa? How it will be usable en masses?
    The Community is a lie. He start but no one else pick this work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nille View Post
    The Community is a lie. He start but no one else pick this work.
    How can you pick the work if there is no source. Release early, release often... If driver never gets release it is as good as nonexistent driver. Nobody can use it.

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    The Lima Project has a Git Repository ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stikonas View Post
    How can you pick the work if there is no source. Release early, release often... If driver never gets release it is as good as nonexistent driver. Nobody can use it.
    Well, the source is there, the problem is that GPUs are very complex, and require many hours spend until you get into the matter. That is why it is not so easy to do in spare time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nille View Post
    The Community is a lie. He start but no one else pick this work.
    So nouveau is a lie? Damn, that sucks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drago View Post
    Well, the source is there, the problem is that GPUs are very complex, and require many hours spend until you get into the matter. That is why it is not so easy to do in spare time.
    No, the source is not available for the T series... and guess what? Lima was barely functional just as venders stopped using the respective MALI core. How can you get a community going that excludes all the devices we actually want drivers for?

    If source code was available for the T series, people would get involved... this assumes of course they trust the leadership, and this is seriously in question. I hate to just throw that out there, but it's the truth, or at the very least the perception.

    I'd definitely donate both time and money, to a project that is exclusively a modern gallium3d open driver. Lima was, and is, no such thing.

    This "new" driver claims to be such a driver, but not releasing source is part of reason trust is lacking. Luc can reverse engineer, I'm not questioning his abilities in that field, but he needs to get a real expert in modern linux GPU drivers.... one that can build a maintainable architecture, that includes all very necessary features. Using Gallium is the only correct answer for this, and releasing code gets people involved who have that experience.
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