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    Default Clutter's Latest Release Gains Wayland Back-End

    Phoronix: Clutter's Latest Release Gains Wayland Back-End

    The Wayland Display Server continues moving forward and is nearing the point of usability by enthusiasts and those interested in easily trying out this display server that leverages the latest and greatest Linux graphics technologies...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODcyMQ

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    interesting embedded stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by V!NCENT View Post
    interesting embedded stuff
    As I understand, wayland will be more efficient with technologies like Open GL, improve visual quality (no tearing), doesn't sound to me as embedded stuff.

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    As I understand it, Wayland is a local-only display solution. I routinely export displays at work and at home. I can see value to Wayland, but please-oh-please-oh-please don't take away my remote display capability.

    Sometimes between Wayland and super-GUI-do-it-all-for-you desktops I feel like there are forces in the world trying to turn Linux into Windows. I appreaciate the concepts of "just works" and "easy to use", but as they get in the way of "make it work by configuring it yourself" and "doing something the designers never anticipated" I start to resent it.

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    the way I see it happening is like this: All major graphics toolkits will start supporting wayland. For backwards compatibility there will have to be a X backend for wayland, or every toolkit will have to keep around X support. I definitely think wayland is the way forward, and I don't mind it being similar to a windows or mac idea as long as it's a good one. Tear-free fast and awesome graphics sounds good to me :-).

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    Whatever, as long as I keep reasonable remote access.

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    Hopefully Wayland will be able to do remote displays. It wouldn't surprise me if it got this feature and eventually replaced Xorg. If Xorg is so massive and confusing and ancient and slow, having great features there but poor ones elsewhere, etc, then maybe it should be replaced.

    If Wayland never adopts those features that you want though, Xorg will stick around..

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    Just thinking for a moment... What I need is a mechanism to run X apps on a remote machine, with the display on the one where I'm seated. There are other mechanisms besides true network transparency that can do this, and perhaps one of those could be beefed up to give the appearance of true network transparency. (Think an up-to-date dxpc or GPL/bsd NX.)

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    AFAIK no compatibility, X apps will run on X like they do now on OS X.

    Don't freak out just yet, anyway. I doubt Wayland will be replacing X even in Fedora in the near future.

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    i think Wayland would be alternative to X, not replacement...
    i really dont need remote stuff and all other useless stuff, local display server is ok for me, same i dont know why PA have networking sound stuff...

    need to use PA, alsa itself cant yet hardware mix on my xonar dx ...

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