The X.Org Plans In Ubuntu 11.04, Again
Phoronix: The X.Org Plans In Ubuntu 11.04, Again
While we may see Canonical use Wayland beginning with Ubuntu 11.10, there's still the Ubuntu 11.04 release coming out before that we have to look forward to with the new Unity desktop interface. Here's some of the key X.Org details for Ubuntu 11.04, a.k.a. the Natty Narwhal...
Why do they stick so eagerly to r600c?
Seriously, it works with one glitch here: only the upper left corner of the notification is rounded and there's no shading next to the lower and right edge.
A few weeks ago I got random crashes when using apps through ssh -X but those seem to be gone.
Others report that the speed is also up to par with classic.
Plus it might have some n.island stuff by that time.
So why stick to classic in advance? Considering r600g was almost non-existent 3 months ago it might get really great in the next 6.
However, Dave and Jerome disappeared in the last few weeks (no commits for the last 11 and 30 days). In addition, it seems Corbin won't work on it either...
Any heads-up, guys?
Because Ubuntu is not Fedora? (Meaning it's not an experimental, latest pre-beta bleeding edge distro, but rather intended to be solid and stable.) r600g is not considered ready. It's not even beta yet.
Originally Posted by HokTar
And yet this is the same distro that recently released their Unity netbook desktop long before it was fit for use - sluggish due to their use of the immature Mutter WM, and all but unusable from the amount of screen space the desktop consumes.
Originally Posted by RealNC
The question is, why not to stick?
Originally Posted by HokTar
Seriously, even if the r600g driver had achieved total feature and speed parity with the r600c, it would still lack an important advantage: Wider testing for a longer period of time.
Why throw away this advantage, if the gallium version doesn't offer anything significant over the classic version at the moment? Just to be cool and have the latest? This is the mark of the stupid, or the mazochist(<troll>in case of Fedora users</troll>).
I believe Ubuntu 11.10 will and Mesa of that time frame will use r600g by default, by that time it will be much more tested and feature complete, and it might provide advantages over the classic driver. Until then, sticking with the classic is sane.
This is a valid point.
Originally Posted by TemplarGR
However, I never preferred r600g just because it's newer. My post was maybe a bit inadequately worded in the sense that r600g is only about 3 months old but it is basically already on feature parity with classic, does not crash often (haven't in the last week or so) for me(tm).
So assuming that the speed of development won't slow down significantly it very well might bring obvious advantages (speed/opengl, etc) by next April.
Plus some guys are working on a video decoding state tracker for gallium/r600g.
Point is, that I thought they completely ruled out the possibility to default to r600g. However, as bridgman pointed out this is not the case, so *I take my word back*.
Just a general question:
I'm quite tech-savvy but maybe not enough to get the point of this, I read different things every time I try to understand, so I ask this very stupid question once and for all:
Is (or will be) Wayland a replacement for X or not?
"While we may see Canonical use Wayland beginning with Ubuntu 11.10"
See Mark's latest blog comment: "Itís highly unlikely that the default Ubuntu install in a year will be on Wayland. Itís possible that there will be versions of Ubuntu that use it, or proof-of-concept images, by then. More importantly, we wonít make it the default until it really is widely supported and supportable, by folks using a wide variety of hardware providers. And as for network connectivity, thereís sufficient time between now and then for these problems to get solved."
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