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    Phoronix: Ubuntu To Turn Into A Rolling-Release Distribution?

    There's been a lot of Ubuntu announcements coming down the pipe lately from ditching the GNOME Shell in favor of their own Canonical-developed Unity desktop to eventually shipping with the Wayland Display Server instead of X.Org. Here's another interesting one: Ubuntu may become a rolling-release distribution...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODgyMw

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    Quote Originally Posted by phoronix View Post
    Phoronix: Ubuntu To Turn Into A Rolling-Release Distribution?

    There's been a lot of Ubuntu announcements coming down the pipe lately from ditching the GNOME Shell in favor of their own Canonical-developed Unity desktop to eventually shipping with the Wayland Display Server instead of X.Org. Here's another interesting one: Ubuntu may become a rolling-release distribution...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODgyMw
    "Coming down the pipe" -> Should be "Coming down the pike"

    For some users this would be great. I know myself, for my desktop computer, I would love this. Not so much for my server though, but I would assume Ubuntu will still have the regular LTS release every two years.

    Bring it on I say.

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    Combined with a LTS release every other year... yes, I'd appreciate that.

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    This is a great idea! The system core might be kept in a locked version, but for most user-visible apps there's no problem in having the latest version also available.

    Why should I wait months to get a new version of my IM client, or my music player?

    You can already kind-of get this with the openSUSE build service, but that's pretty unsupported and you have to tread carefully. (I run various openSUSE versions, but all have latest KDE and Firefox, for example.)

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    This would be a good thing. If they did this and it proved to better meet the fine line between cutting-edge/stability, I would definitely consider switching back to Ubuntu on at least 1 or 2 of my machines.

    I wonder how this would affect Mint.

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    There used to be the backports repository, and that worked well in the past. With newer releases, however, backported packages decreased a lot, only 3 now for 10.10:
    http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick-...ts/allpackages

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    Quote Originally Posted by [Knuckles] View Post
    Why should I wait months to get a new version of my IM client, or my music player?
    That depends. A new version of Amarok might require an updated KDE, which can cause tons of issues.

    I don't know if this is a good thing for Ubuntu, since if they're aiming to be easy to use then I think this is a step backwards. Users will have to deal with all kinds of issues, and not just bugs in newer packages. In Gentoo sometimes libraries just break, so your application won't run because it can't find the library and you have to run revdep-rebuild once in a while.

    I use Gentoo, so I love rolling release, but I don't think it's the right way to go for most people.

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    awesome
    sounds like a march towards newer stuff and easier testing. however api breaks will have to be addressed carefully i guess. still grea news

    hell must have frozen!

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    I moved away from Ubuntu to go Arch because I was annoyed of the update scheme.... that would be a great reason to go back to Ubuntu if it was to be on a rolling release model.

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    Ubuntu needs a good snapshot / backup roll back system now.

    It needs this ready before going rolling. The best scenario would be to have btrfs ready to substitute ext4 and also finish integrating the snapshot system with grub.

    Finish what we've already seen in Fedora:
    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...13_btrfs&num=1

    This should had been done already...

    Another alternative if btrfs is not ready, is to make reverting changes easy with some kind of backup utility that makes auto-snapshots upon updating packages.

    In this day of age where the minimum people carry around is 250GB, having 1 to 5% for snapshots, is not only intelligent but the best solution.

    Your 300gb collection of mp3s is going to be no good when your system breaks, because you're a cheap-ass that cant even give your OS a few megabytes for making backups..

    Old / unused snapshots would get deleted in the queue in favor of new ones, so you will always have 1, 2 or more to go back to depending on the space you assign.

    Instead of this utility i would prefer the built in btrfs way, but lets see if its ready by then.

    Also it would be great if in the software center you could choose versions. For example if a plugin for firefox only works on ff3 and not ff4, i should be able to choose and not be obligated to upgrade to ff4.

    Other than that i think this is a great move that users and hardware vendors like Dell will appreciate. It was to expensive and inconvenient for them trying to keep up with the 6 months upgrade mill and always lagged several versions behind, which no one wanted anymore, making ubuntu computers unattractive.

    and no need to wait for ATI or NVIDIA either! keep the drivers that work for you much longer.

    This move could be far more important for the whole ecosystem and adoption of ubuntu, than unity or wayland!

    Now that they switched those 2 big parts of the system, will ubuntu go ahead and also need to deploy a modified kernel fork to expand support to hardware ABIs and maintain things at their own pace and for longer time?

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