Ah, somebody called upon the ATI users to express their relation to KDE.
Originally Posted by Mr James
But you won't hear any of the proposed one-liners from me.
So here I am, user of AMD CPUs for many years, nvidia GPUs for years and ATI GPUs for the last years. Also user of ImgTec chips, VIA GPUs and other stuff. I had a few intel CPUs and now use besides my main AMD CPUs also VIA C3-2 and C7 as well as a TI ARM.
Just want to state that I have seen and used a lot of different HW.
I use(d) KDE since ... something with a 3 in front (3.2?) that was back in my SuSE days. Since Gentoo it was iirc 3.4.something, later 3.5.x and now 4.x (since the 4.2 release). I saw the first demos on compositing with KDE 3 live on a Linux day on a presentation held by SuSE, KDE and X devs. I was really blown away by cube and wobbly windows.
I also tried/use(d) Gnome, XFCE 4 (thunar always segfaulted so I got fed up with it), and twm (yes, twm, lol, but it never crashed til now).
I acknowledged the message of KDE devs that 4.0 is not a user release and waited. And it was ok to do so. (4.2.x was ok then)
I use 4.4.5 / 4.4.7 now on most of my computers but the 4.4.7 update screwed up on my VIAs (CFLAGS were with -Os, maybe it didn't like that). Made me switch to Gnome on these boxes (recent stable release in Gentoo) on the VIAs. (Gnome is ok but sometimes I miss certain things from KDE.)
KDE 4.4.7 works on my big AMD though without making a mess.
So I do use KDE for some time now, but I have seen enough to say that it is good and I like it but (of course) it is not perfect and I really wished for more quality releases. Stop the features, first implement stability and performance. You must squash bugs faster than spawning new ones by implementing features.
And: Kick that g'dam HAL out! Make "semantic-desktop" optional.
Furthermore if you use something like Gentoo or LFS you'll notice a lot more quarrel (not only in KDE, in all kinds of software). And also KDE bitches with some dependencies or compiling errors from time to time (though Gentoo's stables normally 95%+ work nicely).
Other users will miss that cause their distributors do all that work for them.
(E.g. I remember the last libpng or openssl update, had to recompile 80% of my system's software, god bless revdep-rebuild for helping me with that job.)
I still see some bugs in KDE and compositing of course never worked on the VIA GPUs. It worked on my ATI with free drivers, didn't try with fglrx though.
I do not know what GPUs and driver sets the KDE devs use and I surely know that it is a matter of money, time and nerves to test such a big bunch of SW on different systems with different hardware and drivers. But when you call something a release then it should be stable and working - on all machines. Or at least have some mechanisms to disable features that are known to be problematic (which they have afaik).
I don't remember correctly what the last issue with KDE 4.5 was, but iirc. it was also a lot about having the need for high level GPU support for some things and probably even OpenGL 3 support which is only available in few card/driver combinations. I guess most of the free drivers are still on a OpenGL 2 level at best, and cards/chips that are not nvidia or ati-amd are completely out (xgi, matrox, via, s3, embedded stuff and so on), furthermore a lot of older chips don't have the hardware capabilities for OpenGL 3+).
As we say in .de the devs should come back to the carpet (from being afloat) and style a running KDE for the average hardware/software stack that people are running today. That would not exclude optional fancy stuff.
I also want to state that ati's propr. drivers are not perfect. fglrx worked most of the time, with some 2d issues in last summer (EXA vs. XAA iirc) but I had much more installation issues in W32 (!) and the last 10.12 catalyst release nearly fubared my W32.
But back in my nvidia days I had similar issues. Some releases were good some not.
So I neither blame KDE too much nor ATI-AMD.
this might be interesting to read on the very issue, just found it
Stop TCPA, stupid software patents and corrupt politicians!