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    Default VIA's Open Linux Graphics Driver Has Been Defenestrated

    Phoronix: VIA's Open Linux Graphics Driver Has Been Defenestrated

    For those that were hoping that VIA Technologies would pull through in providing their open-source graphics driver support like they had promised with kernel mode-setting, a Gallium3D driver, and being Linux friendly, kiss those thoughts goodbye as they've been basically thrown out the window. Sadly, it's not happening. I had a very productive conversation with VIA's Stewart Haston, who is their international marketing specialist, and their Linux outlook is extremely dark...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=ODk4Nw

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    Well that simplifies future purchasing decisions: Avoid VIA completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliw View Post
    Well that simplifies future purchasing decisions: Avoid VIA completely.
    When buying any hardware for Linux, it's always wise to match advertised hardware capability and supported driver features.

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    That's why VIA is one of the worst chip makers that I ever seen.
    They think that Microsoft will last forever. However they are wrong.
    Microsoft will abandon X86 architecture gradually and VIA's investment in X86 will be compromised.
    VIA will soon regret of letting Linux as a secondary operating system.

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    The short-sightedness of some companies is baffling...

    1. Support Linux (with open specs and drivers)
    2. Increase potential uses for your chipsets
    3. Profit!

    How hard is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandoc1 View Post
    That's why VIA is one of the worst chip makers that I ever seen.
    They think that Microsoft will last forever. However they are wrong.
    Microsoft will abandon X86 architecture gradually and VIA's investment in X86 will be compromised.
    VIA will soon regret of letting Linux as a secondary operating system.
    Yes, this is idiotic (the decision, not the people who made it). VIA has a lot invested in embedded systems, so they should actually drool for Linux support. And frankly, as pointed out by nnnn, they could at least release documentation. Not because "it is good for the world", but because it makes business sense. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandoc1 View Post
    That's why VIA is one of the worst chip makers that I ever seen.
    They think that Microsoft will last forever. However they are wrong.
    Microsoft will abandon X86 architecture gradually and VIA's investment in X86 will be compromised.
    VIA will soon regret of letting Linux as a secondary operating system.
    Actually VIA is going to be able to keep on their current path, they've been producing ARM parts for years now, and MS is porting NT and all MS internal apps to ARM, a task they likely started long before they formally announced it the other day.

    Though I'd expect to see NT running on those quad core Cortex A15 based chips coming out next year. Think something like this http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/N...stems-R1801e-/ not a phone or tablet running full blown Win7 and Office, at least not initially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kivada View Post
    Actually VIA is going to be able to keep on their current path, they've been producing ARM parts for years now, and MS is porting NT and all MS internal apps to ARM, a task they likely started long before they formally announced it the other day.

    Though I'd expect to see NT running on those quad core Cortex A15 based chips coming out next year. Think something like this http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/N...stems-R1801e-/ not a phone or tablet running full blown Win7 and Office, at least not initially.
    Wondoze on arm.... ??? You actually believe that this is their real objective? Or you think that maybe they are simply trying to threaten the x86 chip makers, who have a lot invested in x86 APU stuff now...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fernandoc1 View Post
    That's why VIA is one of the worst chip makers that I ever seen.
    They think that Microsoft will last forever. However they are wrong.
    Microsoft will abandon X86 architecture gradually and VIA's investment in X86 will be compromised.
    VIA will soon regret of letting Linux as a secondary operating system.
    It's already beginning. Microsoft's already trying to move to the ARM platform and while they have a bit of a performance edge over ARM right at the moment, they just simply don't have the power profile that a Cortex A9 SoC has right at the moment. The ONLY thing they have over ARM right at the moment is, quite simply, very good 64-bit X86 support and their PadLock silicon.

    VIA, you had your chance, but you pretty much blew it. Only way to fix that mess is to quit integrating S3 graphics or if you continue to do so, offering an MXM module or PCI-E 16 lane slot on your designs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliw View Post
    Well that simplifies future purchasing decisions: Avoid VIA completely.
    Yes, FOXCONN is another one to avoid (they screwed Linux in their BIOSES intentionally, I contacted for support for that and they had NO IDEA what they are doing (and had lots of trouble just communicating). Oh well.

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