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    squeeze is coming:
    http://identi.ca/debian

    (has AMD OSS drivers!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by amphigory View Post
    Only a picture of yourself in a leopard print thong, posing with a midget, a donkey, and some chick dressed as Little Bo Peep.
    *Pause*
    Oh geez, not that picture again

    The midget and the donkey were added after the picture was taken. If you look closely the shadows are wrong.

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    I'm off to play OpenArena and Doom3 on the drivers which do not exist, because AMD didn't deliver specs, or fund their development

    I'll wrap my head around the fact that they don't exist after I'm finished shooting.

    See you later!

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    Does anyone get the point, that completly free amd-graphics-drivers do not exist?
    For propper work, they need firmware, which is not opensource, it's a binary blob in the kernel.

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    I'm off to play OpenArena and Doom3
    Good luck shooting with 30 FPS you won't have much. Also try doom3 with an r500 card and see the 2-3 fps. BTW don't forget to visit unigine tropics and heaven with your r600 with open source drivers. Oh fglrx runs them? OK then have fun with your tearing or tripple buffer low memory choices and webgl-video accel supportlessness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by towo2099 View Post
    Does anyone get the point, that completly free amd-graphics-drivers do not exist?
    For propper work, they need firmware, which is not opensource, it's a binary blob in the kernel.
    Actually no, it's a binary file whose contents are loaded into the hardware by free driver code in the kernel.

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    But this firmware it's not free, so is not included in any free GNU/Linux distribution, even Debian does not ship it anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by towo2099 View Post
    But this firmware it's not free, so is not included in any free GNU/Linux distribution, even Debian does not ship it anymore.
    Sure, but it's not part of the drivers and it doesn't make the drivers any less free. Some GPU vendors burn the microcode into the chip, others load it at power-up.

    If the microcode was burned into the chip so you couldn't see it being loaded, would that somehow make the drivers more free ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glxextxexlg View Post
    Good luck shooting with 30 FPS you won't have much.
    locked to the refresh rate (60fps) at 1920x1080. On the cheapest r700 budget card on the market.

    That's enough for me!

    I'd rather have Unigine tech demos not working than have KDE and gvim not working, thank you very much Mr. WorkraFt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by towo2099 View Post
    But this firmware it's not free, so is not included in any free GNU/Linux distribution, even Debian does not ship it anymore.
    Your CPU runs closed firmware too, as does every piece of hardware in your computer, starting from the BIOS.

    It's unfortunate, but by your logic, nothing is free.

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