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Thread: Nokia & Microsoft Get In Bed, Qt & MeeGo Take A Back

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    @ ThatGuy: I can't help but notice you complete lack of response to any of the specific arguments or data mendieta presented other than what amounts to "because I said so". Do you actually have a response to what mendieta said, or do you expect us to just take your word for it?
    I can find data all day to fight data, the problem is it doesn't always make good bussiness sense.

    Microsoft like to make money period.

    BTW don't confuse that with me being a MS fan, I am not. Its a solution I am stuck with.

    Aside from that, you guys don't get it. but thats ok.

    You have to watch what microsoft is doing in the back field to see where things are going. I fully expect them to nearly give away windows phone 7. they want a slice of the apple app store market.

    this will essentially leave phone makers with 2 choices. Lots of support and coding cost for andriod " which is not free and is likely eating into the bottom line" or dropping andriod for a full featured ready to go OS that Ms handles the tech support and customer care on.

    Mind you MS already has facilitys and man power to tackle this issue.

    Ask your self this. Is it cost effective.

    The answer isn't likely what you expect and that will be the determing factor in OEM adoption of windows phone 7.

    that and ceo/cfo's choosing to reduce IT spending by having better integration.

    I'd like to see a much more diverse economy in the operating system arena, but linux just isn't getting it done anywhere but servers" supercomputers don't really count, not enough of them to matter"

    so its all about cost effectiveness.

    wave goodbye to meego and andriod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy View Post
    this philosophical issue.

    while I have met talented people all my life, the ones that can accomplish are always the ones that aren't the top 0.05%. They are the top 0.07%. the people at the rung above them are just to disfunctional to ever accomplish much.

    A good engineer regardless of occupation is someone who at the end of the day delivers a function reliable product.

    Linux users don't seem to get that.

    also to note freedom is a illusion.
    What? The punk rock guide to programming?

    I take a dislike to this kind of philosophy where ever its applyed. Its as missinformed as it is absurd. The commitment to developing skill in any feild does not mean you have to lose something e.g. soul, design ethos, perspective, ability.
    If someone lacks vision yet is highly skilled in another area they would still lack vision if they were completely unskilled.

    Do you honestly think, once you get to this magical "0.07%" skill barrier, you have to avoid learning or somehow skill and knolledge will pure out of an other part of your brain?

    I don't think all the best coders are great visionarys as many mediocre programmers arn't either. But this idea that learning can somehow have a negative effect on your abilities is a destructive and surprisingly popular meme that need eliminating.

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    @ Thatguy: Right, of course, that explains why Microsoft has been so successful with their smartphones up to this point. Oh, wait...

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    Don't feed the troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by psycho_driver View Post
    The xbox360 would be a horrible failure if the customer base was smart enough not to accept shoddy electronic manufacturing standards.
    The reason why the XBox360 is such a hit is probably not so much thanks to the end user, but to Microsofts love and care (most importantly the latter) for developers.

    They develop easy-to-use tools, and create an environment where it is simply easier to focus on what to do, and how to get it done. This in comparison to Sony, who created horrible tools with a steep learning curve.
    The Xbox devkit you can just plug into your computer and run all debugging through Visual Studio, just as if you're running it locally.
    If you get the developers on your side, you're basically home free. Just look at Apple with their huge ecosystem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy View Post
    this will essentially leave phone makers with 2 choices. Lots of support and coding cost for andriod " which is not free and is likely eating into the bottom line" or dropping andriod for a full featured ready to go OS that Ms handles the tech support and customer care on.
    Assuming M$ uses the same OEM model for smart phones as it does for desktops, then the one who will have to bear the whole burden of providing people with technical support is gonna be the phone makers. That's hardly very cost effective, so it sounds like we have a tie between both systems in question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thatguy View Post
    that and ceo/cfo's choosing to reduce IT spending by having better integration.
    If you intend to imply that Android has trouble integrating with existing ICT infrastructure, then you're terribly misinformed. Everything that a user of such device cares about can be easily configured to seamlessly synchronize with both company's Exchange server and/or any other machine out there using user's Google account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mendieta View Post
    Yes, a delusional nutjob. This explains why it is presented as a repectable source of news in Wikipedia, right:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groklaw
    Anyone and everyone can edit Wikipedia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azpegath View Post
    The reason why the XBox360 is such a hit is probably not so much thanks to the end user, but to Microsofts love and care (most importantly the latter) for developers.
    It certainly has nothing to do with the price tag and the number of games available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yogi_berra View Post
    It certainly has nothing to do with the price tag and the number of games available.
    Well, both the pricetag and the number of games available are kind of the result of my statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azpegath View Post
    Well, both the pricetag and the number of games available are kind of the result of my statement.
    Not really, your statement would only affect game cost, not system cost. Microsoft was supposedly taking a loss on the cost of the hardware to keep prices lower than the PS3.

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