Nouveau's OpenGL Performance Approaches The NVIDIA Driver

[bug77]

This sounds like someone who has never actually tried the radeon drivers.

Sorry if I'm wrong, but comparing them to VESA?

They're plenty fine for desktop effects and other light uses.

They're also fine for lightweight games, like most of what actually runs on Linux.

They can only run Q3 at 200fps instead of 400fps.

Indeed I haven't tried radeon drivers. I need proper Linux support, so I buy nvidia.
I'm sure the driver is fine for "light" usage, but that's like driving a steam engine in the era of the TGV.
I'm glad you're getting 200fps in Q3, but how much does an open source score in Unigine's Heaven?
And it may not have occurred to you, but pushing unfinished drivers down people's throats is also part of the reason gaming is suffering on linux, too. Who's going to develop games for a platform that barely supports OpenGL2.1 on 7 years old hardware?

[whitecat]

I'm glad you're getting 200fps in Q3, but how much does an open source score in Unigine's Heaven?

I play games, not benchmarks.

[Drago]

I don't understand you, bug77. If you insist on highest video performance, nobody is stopping you from using blobs.
A year ago, we were happy running gears on r600c, and today you want now heaven.
Things do not work that. At lest programming.
I am proud user of r600c@work, and nouveau@home(waiting for Llano with r600g), and nobody gonna turn me back to blobs.

[smitty3268]

I'm glad you're getting 200fps in Q3, but how much does an open source score in Unigine's Heaven?

If running a demo is really that important to you, then indeed the binary blobs are where it's at. Personally, I don't really care whether or not my computer can run a demo. That hardly makes it only suitable for a server.

[pingufunkybeat]

I'm glad you're getting 200fps in Q3, but how much does an open source score in Unigine's Heaven?

It doesn't run Heaven, but since Heaven is just a demo, it's not a big deal.

Here, I run the following using a low-end HD4550 and r600g:

SweetHome3d
OpenArena
Nexuiz
Compiz
KWin
Doom3 + RoE
Quake4
Warsow
Penumbra games
World of Goo
Gish
Aquaria
LugaruHD
Quake Live


and they are fine. But I'm not much of a gamer, other people run more stuff. Pretty much everything I've tried, works.

Also power saving is OK, Xvideo and xrandr are excellent (nvidia blob still doesn't support this), and the thing is stable.

I'm very glad that you refuse to look at open drivers because of your serious need for "Heaven" but please do not intentionally spread lies to confuse users, OK?

"VESA", what an idiot

[ChrisXY]

Here, I run the following using a low-end HD4550 and r600g:

Penumbra games

They work now? Last time I tried they wouldn't start because of not supported OpenGL extensions.

Have to try when I get home... Can't wait.

[pingufunkybeat]

Penumbra?

I've finished Overture and Black Plague, and got bored with Requiem about 2/3 through.

I think I was using r600c back then, but it should work with r600g too.

Or are you thinking about Amnesia: Dark Descent? That used to be broken, but is working now, according to the RadeonProgram wiki.

[agd5f]

i had planned on moving to ATI for the new version of ubuntu but seeing as how the 68xx/69xx series will require the closed binaries i'll wait until they get support in the opensource version.

The open source driver fully supports (2D, 3D, Xv) radeon 68xx asics as of 2.6.38 and initial support for 69xx just went into 2.6.39 (accel support for 69xx is still incomplete).

[mendieta]

Indeed I haven't tried radeon drivers. I need proper Linux support, so I buy nvidia.

Oh, so you really are trolling, never mind.

[ChrisXY]

Oh wow, I played it first with fglrx and the old config always produced

Init low level graphics
Setting video mode: 800 x 600 - 32 bpp
ERROR: Could not set display mode setting a lower one!
FATAL ERROR: Unable to initialize display!

on starting. With a new config it works. So forget what I said, it was not a missing OpenGL extension.