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    Default AMD's Catalyst Misses The Support Train, Again

    Phoronix: AMD's Catalyst Misses The Support Train, Again

    While AMD released the Catalyst 11.3 driver this morning, if you're an early adopter of Ubuntu 11.04, Fedora 15, or any other Linux distribution shipping with xorg-server 1.10, the proprietary Radeon / FirePro driver remains incompatible...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTI2OQ

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    AMD did have support in time, and the there was a breakage with the ABI. That's hardly AMD's fault, and as can be shown by releasing a "look ahead" driver, they certainly are able to quickly adapt if they want.
    The driver pipeline is in place for a reason, however, and unlike nvidia, AMD don't like releasing beta drivers. QA will have to go over any changes before things are officially supported.
    Now Ubuntu might get some beta drivers early, but there's nothing to stop other distros repackaging it for their own needs.

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    It is completely stupid NOT to release the binary installer as official preview and only providing U with it. First off all it is now basically "complete" as there are only xpic* dirs for all supported xservers but U strips several things out of the .orig.tar.gz which is not nice. Basically those parts to create packages. To be really original they would need to ship the run installer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    AMD did have support in time, and the there was a breakage with the ABI. That's hardly AMD's fault, and as can be shown by releasing a "look ahead" driver, they certainly are able to quickly adapt if they want.
    The driver pipeline is in place for a reason, however, and unlike nvidia, AMD don't like releasing beta drivers. QA will have to go over any changes before things are officially supported.
    Now Ubuntu might get some beta drivers early, but there's nothing to stop other distros repackaging it for their own needs.
    It is AMD's fault. Nvidia supported Xorg 1.10 before and after the ABI break. If AMD doesn't want to release beta version that support Xorg 1.10 then that's their problem, and you can't say it's not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvtcupcakes View Post
    It is AMD's fault. Nvidia supported Xorg 1.10 before and after the ABI break. If AMD doesn't want to release beta version that support Xorg 1.10 then that's their problem, and you can't say it's not.
    As I said, they probably (I have to say probably, I don't work for them and I'm not signed up under any beta program) don't want to officially support without proper QA. In this case, it's not really their problem - it's yours if you don't like it.

    I'm actually against Ubuntu receiving preferential treatment, but I can understand why they do it. The fglrx drivers are aimed at business use, not home user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    The fglrx drivers are aimed at business use, not home user.
    I disagree with this statement.
    Those drivers are made for all the AMD cards on the market, not only for the FireGL line which aims specifically the business use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spykes View Post
    I disagree with this statement.
    Those drivers are made for all the AMD cards on the market, not only for the FireGL line which aims specifically the business use.
    You missed the meaning of the text you quoted. It said that the *drivers* are aimed at business use, not the GPUs it supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirv View Post
    AMD did have support in time, and the there was a breakage with the ABI. That's hardly AMD's fault, and as can be shown by releasing a "look ahead" driver, they certainly are able to quickly adapt if they want.
    The driver pipeline is in place for a reason, however, and unlike nvidia, AMD don't like releasing beta drivers. QA will have to go over any changes before things are officially supported.
    Now Ubuntu might get some beta drivers early, but there's nothing to stop other distros repackaging it for their own needs.
    how did, and what exactly broke in this Application Binary Interface ?

    dont they have something like the 'ABI compliance checker' http://ispras.linuxfoundation.org/in...liance_checker in place or something ! and dont they use simple major/minor visioning today

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