What Would Be A Win For KWin In KDE

[phoronix]

Phoronix: What Would Be A Win For KWin In KDE

Martin Gräßlin, the lead developer of the KWin compositing window manager in KDE, has just wrote about improvements he would like to see made to this critical free software project for the Linux desktop...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=OTM5OA

[krazy]

Awesome, can't wait to see how this develops.

Martin + the Kwin team continually push the envelope of WM features both in the linux world and even considering Windows / OS X.

[RealNC]

Even when X.Org treats them and Compiz as second class citizens, both continue to be amazing. Can't wait for X.Org to die (at long last) and Wayland to prevail. At this point, X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop.

[V!NCENT]

Even when X.Org treats them and Compiz as second class citizens, both continue to be amazing. Can't wait for X.Org to die (at long last) and Wayland to prevail. At this point, X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop.

I like Wayland and seperate networked widgets, but could you eleborate as to why X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop? (no troll for once )

[V!NCENT]

I like Wayland and seperate networked widgets, but could you eleborate as to why X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop? (no troll for once )

Not implying that it has already been doing that...

[RealNC]

I like Wayland and seperate networked widgets, but could you eleborate as to why X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop? (no troll for once )

By not paying full attention to the needs of Compiz and KWin. I say this after having read the reply of X.Org devs to the main dev of KWin, telling him that neither Compiz nor KWin are the most important users of X.Org. That came as a total surprise to me, and was quite shocking. (And I wonder why people didn't react strongly to that.)

I believe that those two projects (and by extension, KDE and Gnome) are the most vital for the Linux desktop, and therefore should be considered the most important X.Org users. How else can Linux be on-par with Microsoft's Aero and Apple's Quartz? By not treating Compiz/KWin using the highest priority, improvements to the Linux desktop will continue to be glacial. I started reading Phoronix 3 years ago. Since that time, progress was slow, giving the impression that advancing the Linux multimedia desktop is not the highest priority of X.Org.

[marek]

I say this after having read the reply of X.Org devs to the main dev of KWin, telling him that neither Compiz nor KWin are the most important users of X.Org.

He said that StarCraft 2 is a much much more important user of Mesa/X.Org than KWin and that many people would gladly sacrifice Kwin if they could run SC2 or WoW. AAA games are one of the most important pieces of software for Linux consumers and generally for Linux success on the consumer market, not some desktop eye candy. That's the reality.

[kraftman]

I believe that those two projects (and by extension, KDE and Gnome) are the most vital for the Linux desktop, and therefore should be considered the most important X.Org users. How else can Linux be on-par with Microsoft's Aero and Apple's Quartz? By not treating Compiz/KWin using the highest priority, improvements to the Linux desktop will continue to be glacial. I started reading Phoronix 3 years ago. Since that time, progress was slow, giving the impression that advancing the Linux multimedia desktop is not the highest priority of X.Org.

It's because some idiots in Red Hat and Novell think gnome can compete with Windows and OS X. Or they simply don't care about desktop.

[bridgman]

Even when X.Org treats them and Compiz as second class citizens, both continue to be amazing. Can't wait for X.Org to die (at long last) and Wayland to prevail. At this point, X.Org is starting to hurt Linux on the desktop.

How could Wayland prevailing over X.Org make a difference for KWin and Compiz (other than Wayland's compositor potentially eliminating the need for KWin and Compiz) ? The X stack and Wayland use the same drivers.

[Qaridarium]

How could Wayland prevailing over X.Org make a difference for KWin and Compiz (other than Wayland's compositor potentially eliminating the need for KWin and Compiz) ? The X stack and Wayland use the same drivers.

(ironie) its new you know? and this makes it better be sure its magic.(/ironie)

maybe we lost a little bit of the overheat? maybe 20% more speed for 2D tasks ?