As for the other part of your post I'm not convinced. There are no good mono applications which could change my opinion. When I compare Amarok to Banshee - Amarok wins, Shotwell to F-Spot - Shotwell wins. How many mono applications are there? Less than ten probably. However, keep in mind I wasn't arguing against mono in this thread, but about Icaza. I can always change my opinion about mono, but there's too early to even try. It's obvious people like Icaza and some (ex)Novell folks were simply hurting mono. They consider PR is something what will convince Linux community to use .Net. They're simply wrong. PR talk is only successful for short period of time. If they think seriously about .Net on Linux they should change their talk and start to be fair with the community. Speak like a normal people rather than advertising guys.