The end of the obsolescence in the graphic industrie. 'Unlimited Detail':

[tuke81]

from http://www.euclideon.com/

Polygon to voxel conversion is still young but is working as expected.

Hmm so it uses voxels in some kind of point clouds. Carmack says something about it too:
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/08/is-...lideoncom.html


But can't you just use tessellation for those rocks and trees...

[Qaridarium]

from http://www.euclideon.com/


Hmm so it uses voxels in some kind of point clouds. Carmack says something about it too:
http://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2011/08/is-...lideoncom.html


But can't you just use tessellation for those rocks and trees...

""Haha, so John Carmack, the king of high end 3D graphics, thinks it's possible, but Notch, the king of blocky 16 bit graphics, thinks it's not?""

[RealNC]

""Haha, so John Carmack, the king of high end 3D graphics, thinks it's possible, but Notch, the king of blocky 16 bit graphics, thinks it's not?""

Notch doesn't just think it's possible, he said that it was already done by other people too. He got pissed because the people behind it seem to claim that they invented it.

The basics of that technology is even older than accelerated vector-based 3D. Back in the day, I was playing "Comanche". That game was already using this in 1992: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comanche_series

Edit:
And here's how it looked. Note that for 1992, those graphics were considered pretty l33t, as they were running on 20MHz 80386 CPUs with 4MB RAM.

[DeiF]

And the basics for 3D are decades old, but still Crysis is innovative.
Yeah, they use old technology, but they also innovate. Give them some merit.


You have to be skeptic though, until they show more (drawbacks, etc).

[crispy]

As pointed out before, as far as I understand, this only works with static objects. But I guess its pretty nice for building big static environments, and then adding some classic vertex based graphics on top.

Maybe its also possible to make some hacks so its possible to make it look like the wind blows some leaves on the tree. For example mark the voxels in the database as 'moving' and 'attatched' to some central voxel on the leaf whose coordinates changes over time...

[RealNC]

And the basics for 3D are decades old, but still Crysis is innovative.

How is Crysis innovative in this regard? It does not use any new technology. It only uses what is offered by Direct3D.

Yeah, they use old technology, but they also innovate. Give them some merit.

It's difficult to do. No one knows if and how innovative they are. They don't say much about what they're doing. The only thing they showed so far are videos with a gay saying things that sound like what used car salesman would say.

As pointed out before, as far as I understand, this only works with static objects. But I guess its pretty nice for building big static environments, and then adding some classic vertex based graphics on top.

Voxel engines can also work with animations. Performance isn't great though.

[tuke81]

Veeery long interview with B. Dell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVB1ayT6Fdc

Looks interesting, but static...