Perhaps, however I again find it very doubtful that he'd be lying, and there is some suspect stuff such as Apple going with PPC as opposed to other RISC architectures of the time. Plus it doesn't necessarily have to be buy out in terms of actually buying out Apple as potentially gaining a majority share, the same way that Blizzard took over Sierra and killed them without there being that much in the way of news about it back then.
Originally Posted by deanjo
It was not my intention to imply IBM having Apple develop the GUI, it is however meant to imply the hand of IBM being in the Apple II pie, while Jobs was steering in the other direction.
Originally Posted by deanjo
The dark secret nobody wanted to admit to.,
Vic 20, C64
I think Steve should have focused on IOrgans rather than IGadgets.
Seriously. Jonathan Ive and Steve Jobs could jive out a better life for us all; at a price.
I found it funny Apple never admitted to offering premium products.
Truth is they did, IPOD 8GB 16GB 32GB. Mac Mini.
So because he convinced some OTHER people to design and make some expensive toys FOR him he's someone who is better than an idealist who believes in freedom in the technology world?
Originally Posted by kgonzales
That's all Apple really is, toys. Completely useless, except to make Jobs rich enough to not have to care about parking in handicapped parking spots illegally. Here's a fun exercise... right now, what would be worse, if all of the linux machines suddenly died or all of the macOS/iOS devices suddenly died? Toys.
EDIT: As for me, I'll leave the crass consumerism icons to people like you. Leave me to worship the actual researchers doing the dirty work (turns out they're not famous).
Last edited by Kalessian; 10-07-2011 at 02:56 AM.
Originally Posted by Kalessian
Although my personal approach along those lines is "How many apple products directly or indirectly effect you personally in the standard day?" and then "How many Linux Systems directly or indirectly effect you personally in the standard day?". to which one will receive bluster about how Apple is a consumer electronics company, as they try to dismiss the comparison.
And really now, If all the Linux machines were down, their iToys would be rather useless now wouldn't they?
Please refrain from such statements. Neither of us should rejoice over anybody's death.
Originally Posted by Qaridarium
I have my grievances with Apple and Steve Jobs, but they did a lot of good stuff too. I am grateful for their contributions to CUPS and xserver. Moreover, they help to promote OpenGL and even initiated OpenCL.
Ummm, sorry but Jef Raskin was the one pushing for the Mac development and got the go ahead after being shot down a couple of times. That started in 1979 and it wasn't until 81 that Jobs got involved with the project.
Originally Posted by Luke_Wolf
I find it hard to believe how a forum for technical people can be so full of simplistic world views. If more people were so susceptible to certain ideas expressed in statements like ``Earth would be better off without Individual X'', we'd all be living under some nice, friendly dictatorship.
Well, the guy who said that is a german and they do have alot of history with dictatorships... Maybe it's their natural predilection.
Wow... It seems even eulogies on a Linux enthusiasts' forum can't escape Godwin's law...
Originally Posted by duby229
Except that I never said anything about nazis. Although it is true that the nazi party was the power behind one of germany many eras of dictatorship.
I'll make a new made up law that states that as conversations on the internet progress the likelyhood of someone mentioning a made up law in an attempt to discredit someone goes up exponentially. I think I'll call it "Duby's Law"