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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    no SSE5 is FMA3... and they don't have FMA3 in the bulldozer they ad FMA4 because intel cheat to amd

    now intel makes FMA3 first and amd had to ad FMA3 in the next bulldozer.

    also the XOP is SSE5 and intel do not support it at all.

    intel will bring FMA3 in 2013...
    SSE5 according to AMD's documents is FMA4, XOP and CVT16 as of the 2009 revision of it.

    http://developer.amd.com/archive/cpu...s/default.aspx

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    http://support.amd.com/us/Embedded_TechDocs/43479.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    no SSE5 is FMA3... and they don't have FMA3 in the bulldozer they ad FMA4 because intel cheat to amd

    now intel makes FMA3 first and amd had to ad FMA3 in the next bulldozer.

    also the XOP is SSE5 and intel do not support it at all.

    intel will bring FMA3 in 2013...
    Nope wrong again... XOP AND FMA4 were parts SSE5 that were not compatible with AVX and so they were spun off into their own extensions. The rest of SSE5 was compatible with AVX and so thats what it became.

    EDIT: FMA3 is not the same as FMA4

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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    Nope wrong again... XOP AND FMA4 were parts SSE5 that were not compatible with AVX and so they were spun off into their own extensions. The rest of SSE5 was compatible with AVX and so thats what it became.

    EDIT: FMA3 is not the same as FMA4
    Exactly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanjo View Post
    SSE5 according to AMD's documents is FMA4, XOP and CVT16 as of the 2009 revision of it.

    http://developer.amd.com/archive/cpu...s/default.aspx

    linked document

    http://support.amd.com/us/Embedded_TechDocs/43479.pdf
    as i know amd come with SSE5 first this means (FMA3+XOP+CVT16)

    then intel comes with the name AVX and the claim that FMA4 is better than FMA3 and they claim that they will not support FMA3.

    then AMD chance the logic to AVX and FMA4 then intel cheat on amd and intel go for AVX first and in 2013 AVX+FMA3

    now amd do have only 01 bin compatibility on SSE4.2 the bulldozer is not compatible with AVX and not compatible with FMA4.

    in 2013 intel will bring the AVX+FMA3 and amd have to ad this to...

    then in 2015 intel ad FMA4 and then in 2017 they will allow amd to make there cpus bit compatible in AVX+FMA3+FMA4

    and no right now amd claim to support AVX and FMA4 but they can not because intel do not allow it!

    its a AVX-AMD-only-slang and FMA4-AMD-only-slang

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    Quote Originally Posted by duby229 View Post
    EDIT: FMA3 is not the same as FMA4
    right FMA3 is a complete different feature.

    first amd came with FMA3 then intel claim they will not support FMA3 they will only support AMA4 then amd chance there amd-only instruction set to FMA4 after that intel chance there plan to support only FMA3.

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    Evidently they don't care too much about Linux coverage for this less-than-stellar product launch.
    This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.
    And AMD less likely to send samples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by that guy View Post
    This type of remarks makes me less likely to read future articles.
    He was actually being polite by not saying it's crap.

    Here's what Hitler has to say about it, couldn't agree with him more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SArxcnpXStE

    Funny stuff too , I laughed so hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qaridarium View Post
    as i know amd come with SSE5 first this means (FMA3+XOP+CVT16)
    Not according to AMD documentation. FMA4+XOP+CVT16.

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    AMD won 64bit extension battle because they had a very strong product, at least as good as Intels and they were selling it at a very competitive price thus quickly gaining market share. There were simply too many amd cpus out there for intel to ignore that. Now, with the crappy lower-end cpus that AMD makes and no one wants to buy, what the hell are they thinking proposing new instruction sets?

    I can't believe it - over 1 billion new transistors for almost no benefit? What the fuck AMD?

    A standardization committee for the x86 architecture would really be a great thing. It would be great for competition, but I am afraid it might be too late to save the technological development. So much shitty legacy crap is already out there, it stinks.

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