Farewell To The Classic R300/R600 Mesa Drivers

[Qaridarium]

We haven't killed r200 support, and I don't believe there are any plans to kill it, either. What Eric did kill was old DRI1 support (you can still use DRI2) and old non-kernel-memory-manager paths. Cleaning house, essentially.

For r300 and r600, the Radeon maintainers preferred to kill the classic drivers in favor of the (more maintained) Gallium ones. Since there isn't a r200 gallium driver (and AFAIK no plans to write one), the r200 classic driver stays.

i read about cpu emulation for the x1250ati and this card is not a full r300...

in the same way they can support r200 to.

[curaga]

We haven't killed r200 support, and I don't believe there are any plans to kill it, either. What Eric did kill was old DRI1 support (you can still use DRI2) and old non-kernel-memory-manager paths. Cleaning house, essentially.

For r300 and r600, the Radeon maintainers preferred to kill the classic drivers in favor of the (more maintained) Gallium ones. Since there isn't a r200 gallium driver (and AFAIK no plans to write one), the r200 classic driver stays.

He can still be fucked, as I understand that PowerPC + KMS + AGP is completely broken ATM. This would remove the ums path, which may just be the only usable path.

[marek]

Why would anyone be fucked? If he has any issues with KMS on R200+AGP+PowerPC, he won't upgrade to Mesa 7.12. Plain and simple.

Besides, Mesa 7.12 will be able to load 7.11 drivers too.

[staalmannen]

I am glad. F*ck solaris, f*ck bsd! These are server OS, so they doesn't need 3D drivers at all. If one wants free open-source unix like desktop OS, the choice is simple -> Linux.

I for one would be sad if those alternatives went away. I am a happy Arch Linux user but I think that it is important that there are other independent alternatives (I am personally playing with Plan9 but I am still far from being able to use this as a primary OS), like the *BSDs and the solaris-derived (now illumos-derrived) distros.

What I would like to see is actually *more* diversity on the Linux side - we already have the "kFreeBSD" variants of Debian and Gentoo, and the nexenta illumos/debian hybrid. As far as I am aware, there are no non-GNU Linux OSes (BSD or Solaris-derived userland) out there....

[bridgman]

i read about cpu emulation for the x1250ati and this card is not a full r300... in the same way they can support r200 to.

Not really. CPU emulation of vertex shader hardware (as required by x1250) is pretty do-able with decent performance if you use the LLVM paths. CPU emulation of DX9 pixel shader hardware (the main difference between r2xx and r3xx) is a lot harder.