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    Default ATI's New Drivers: Did The Paradise Come?

    Phoronix: ATI's New Drivers: Did The Paradise Come?

    It's been nearly seven months since I wrote my first article about ATI drivers and how they literally crippled my computer and my daily life. Last month, ATI had finally released their latest drivers which contains the new OpenGL component and AIGLX support. Was this release worth the amount of hype and did it solve everyone's problems? For me, simply, no. After seven months of waiting, updating, and struggling, things are not good for me, in every possible feature of the ATI Linux driver I use.

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=11424

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    so it isn't just me ...

    Well i hope they stabilize it soon ...

    but i am also sick and tired of the word soon; I know it isn't easy. I am a developer so i can respect that. but still ... I feel like i might have waited long enough.

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    Maybe it is time to stop waiting for better drivers and start waiting for 3d specifications even though that would mean waiting one more year until stable 3d driver that would work out of box in all distributions.

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    well i can agree with everything except powerusage for my hd 2900 XT, it doesnt seem to run at 100% all the time, but this is not the case on the x850 XT PE for sure, it goes on 100% all the time.

    but i dunno hows the 2900 XT goes, if its on 100% or not .

    performance is godlike though, my aiglx issues are small, but still annoying, my videoplayback issue is a very annoying issue, but they have certanly done something, and the 8.43.xxx may bring some hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole-Martin Broz View Post
    well i can agree with everything except powerusage for my hd 2900 XT, it doesnt seem to run at 100% all the time, but this is not the case on the x850 XT PE for sure, it goes on 100% all the time.

    but i dunno hows the 2900 XT goes, if its on 100% or not .

    performance is godlike though, my aiglx issues are small, but still annoying, my videoplayback issue is a very annoying issue, but they have certanly done something, and the 8.43.xxx may bring some hope.
    I hope you're right, 8.43 should be mostly a big bugfix release. Or at least we hope so. About your 100% load thing, I think you're right, because with my x1600XT, if I touch the heatsink while running Linux it feels hotter than normal. But I tried it in Windows for a test and it was nearly ice cold. The card is a pretty good overclocker too. It can go from 590/690 to 700/760 or in other words, 700/1520.

    Granted, I can bring it a little higher but I don't like pushing it to the absolute limits. It still doesn't get as hot in Windows as it does in Linux. I wish the x1600XT had a temperature sensor on it and wish they had a temperature reader in the CCC for Linux.

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    Two Words describe this situation with the new codebase drivers...

    Train...
    Wreck...

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    It's funny that although I've always used fglrx, I haven't really ever noticed any video playback issues, certainly not "I can't watch video". I tend to use mplayer, maybe that's why. And -vo gl.
    I wonder if that memory leaking stuff is inherent to the driver, I should try to recreate it and find out. Since installing the newer drivers, some games and other accelerated Gl programs have frozen my Ubuntu box. It might be either that or the heating Issue.

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    I've had nothing but bad experiences with ATI since the mid-90s with Windows and Linux -- mostly bad driver support (TV cards, linux drivers) and poor display quality compared to Matrox and to a lesser extent nVidia. When I could, I have avoided their video cards since then. I'm still wondering why people use ATI, especially with Linux.

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    Because they seem to have a hammer-lock on the laptop market (I've got a couple laptops with their stuff in it... One that's supported with Open Source drivers and one that's not- sadly, the one that's supported with fglrx is actually slower than the one that's not- but I suspect that's more a function of the lack of vertex shader support in that chip than the drivers themselves.).

    That, and many people are coming in from the Windows world and they're stuck with this stuff and don't have budget to support buying an NVidia. Couple this with a desire to support them now that they're slowly opening up all the info in spades- well, you've got the picture.

    Me, I'm not waiting for the driver to get done. I want their tech specs. If they can staff up and get their act together, fine- their driver will be faster because they've been up the food chain in 3D graphics longer than we have. However, until they get it stable, it's just not going to be an option for most people- period.

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    Default Using Mobility 9600 (M10)

    With 8.42.3, I lost the Render to texture extension (GL_render_texture I think) compared to previous drivers. Along with the logo artifacting at the bottom right. The are the two most obvious and annoying...

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