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Originally posted by archibald View PostIn the parlance of wikipedia: [Citation needed], as this doesn't tie in with my experience at all. FreeBSD has a good reputation for networking, so if you are going to pick fault with it, please come up with examples and references (if there are issues then they will be on a mailing list - check gmane.org). It's worked with all hardware that I've thrown at it (except for a GMA500, but I think that's fair enough).
A lot of wifi adapters are only usable once you install a Windows XP driver into FreeBSD's Microsoft NDIS compatibility layer. Linux has NDISwrapper which is seldom needed and a GPL violation. FreeBSD sleeps with dogs and brags about the fleas.
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Originally posted by dnebdal View PostAh, so you are a troll. Good to know I can ignore you without missing anything.
(Random example: Juniper's JUNOS is FreeBSD-derived, and to the best of my knowledge they sync up with the FreeBSD fairly often. They also contribute a decent amount of code back.)Last edited by kraftman; 01 December 2011, 06:06 AM.
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Originally posted by NoEffex View Post1. I wouldn't consider myself a "kid".
2. You have to quantify what is "Linux". The kernel itself without all of the terrible drivers is written pretty well. The major companies that use Linux typically modify it heavily and gut it out completely.
The very large quantity of less-than-stellar drivers brings the overall code quality down. FreeBSD has less of a problem with that and ZFS is used far more than something like Btrfs probably ever will be, and Solaris is slow. All that said, second posters accusations are false.
3. I'm not going to go into BSD v. GPL...that's a breeding ground for disaster.
On a slightly different note (Rather than comparing crap with less crappier crap, whichever one people side with) word on the street is that MINIX is receiving large amounts of funding the European Research Council. Say what you want about the others but if people start taking on MINIX it'll become quite useful in enterprise. I'm hoping for that. There are a few people that I'm very fond of in the *nix scene and chief among them is Andrew Tanenbaum.
The reason MINIX 3 didn't dominate the world has to do with one mistake I made about 1992. At that time I thought BSD was going to take over the world. It was a mature and stable system. I didn't see any point in competing with it, so I focused MINIX on education.
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Originally posted by DaemonFC View PostIt's well documented that the BSDs have lousy video card support.
A lot of wifi adapters are only usable once you install a Windows XP driver into FreeBSD's Microsoft NDIS compatibility layer. Linux has NDISwrapper which is seldom needed and a GPL violation. FreeBSD sleeps with dogs and brags about the fleas.
Network cards are mostly fine, though; there's a fair bit of sharing between the *BSDs on wifi drivers, and the NIC drivers are in good shape. Sure, NDISwrap exists - but it's just an option.
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Originally posted by kraftman View Post
Andrew have missed the train and not so long ago there was article at lwn.net about this:
http://lwn.net/Articles/467852/
Every other line in that interview was sour grapes against Linux.
I'm glad the European Union has decided in its wisdom to waste taxpayer money on MINIX, because it is one of those things that just wouldn't float without some government cheese.
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Originally posted by DaemonFC View PostCranky old man who didn't foresee a lawsuit coming with BSDi trying to pass itself off as UNIX while AT&T (the Microsoft the government eventually did do something about) was still trying to hang onto UNIX.
Every other line in that interview was sour grapes against Linux.
I'm glad the European Union has decided in its wisdom to waste taxpayer money on MINIX, because it is one of those things that just wouldn't float without some government cheese.
Ahh yes, "MINIX" -aka The Basturdized Unix
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Originally posted by dnebdal View PostRandom example: Juniper's JUNOS is FreeBSD-derived, and to the best of my knowledge they sync up with the FreeBSD fairly often. They also contribute a decent amount of code back.
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Originally posted by scjet View PostAhh yes, "MINIX" -aka The Basturdized Unix
Not only does he have something that probably wouldn't exist in a free market, he tries to claim it is superior to what the free market has produced. The free market has produced and made popular Linux and the BSDs. No matter what side of that fence you're on, they have succeeded where they have succeeded on their own merit without the assistance of monopolies or government welfare.The European Union giving Tanenbaum a grant is the high tech equivalent of paying someone to dig ditches and fill them back in when they're done.
I would say Tanenbaum probably fits the bill for a "small government for thee and not for me" conservative. Those types tend to blast the government for corporate welfare and bailouts that don't improve the economy, but only when they're not the ones benefiting from the handout.
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