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    Default The Gallium3D Cell Driver Gets Dropped Too

    Phoronix: The Gallium3D Cell Driver Gets Dropped Too

    Besides dropping the Intel 965 Gallium3D driver from mainline Mesa, the Gallium3D Cell driver has also been removed too...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTAyMTM

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    So I'm not a PS3 user, but what does this mean for those who use PS3? Do they not have 3D acceleration anymore? AFAIK, there's still no nvidia support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    So I'm not a PS3 user, but what does this mean for those who use PS3? Do they not have 3D acceleration anymore? AFAIK, there's still no nvidia support.
    On the PS3 you're probably better off using the nouveau driver for the Nvidia GPU (it's an NV74 IIRC). I don't believe the Cell on the PS3 is actually directly hooked up to the rasterization hardware so in order to use the cell as the GPU you'd have to blit the images to the NV GPU anyways. The SPEs are more interesting as GPGPU processors for CUDA/OpenCL like jobs. The only real downside to PS3 owners is that Clover (Gallium3D-based OpenCL) won't support the cell, but anyone seriously targeting the Cell for performance uses the dedicated SPU compiler mode in GCC anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    So I'm not a PS3 user, but what does this mean for those who use PS3? Do they not have 3D acceleration anymore? AFAIK, there's still no nvidia support.
    PS3 users aren't allowed to boot into Linux since quite some time anyway. Cell is dead as a platform for mainframes. Some aspects have been merged into newer POWER CPUs but for those aren't used on computers directly hooked to displays anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by trapxvi View Post
    On the PS3 you're probably better off using the nouveau driver for the Nvidia GPU (it's an NV74 IIRC). I don't believe the Cell on the PS3 is actually directly hooked up to the rasterization hardware so in order to use the cell as the GPU you'd have to blit the images to the NV GPU anyways. The SPEs are more interesting as GPGPU processors for CUDA/OpenCL like jobs. The only real downside to PS3 owners is that Clover (Gallium3D-based OpenCL) won't support the cell, but anyone seriously targeting the Cell for performance uses the dedicated SPU compiler mode in GCC anyways.
    wait nouveau works on ps3's gpu now? if so that's great to hear, but how well does it work?

    if ps3 had more memory and if i had more money i would consider using ps3 as my main computer, but my computer now is better than ps3. maybe the next generation will be good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    PS3 users aren't allowed to boot into Linux since quite some time anyway.
    Not if you don't install firmware that breaks booting into Linux. Anyone who bought one to play with for compute purposes probably fits into this camp.

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    Cell is dead as a platform for mainframes. Some aspects have been merged into newer POWER CPUs but for those aren't used on computers directly hooked to displays anyway
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    The only place IBM sells Cell directly is in blades like the QS22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    wait nouveau works on ps3's gpu now?
    It doesn't.

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    Trusting Sony enough to write tens of thousands of lines of code in Mesa and the kernel to support the PAYstation 3 was a mistake to begin with.

    Sony is a DRM and old media company that thrives on misusing Linux for tax evasion purposes (PAYstation 2) and then decided to label it as a value added feature to the PAYstation 3. Then when a bunch of scientists decide to buy the PAYstation 3 simply because it's heavily subsidized and makes a neat and cost effective compute cluster due to Linux, Sony drops that support. This makes them guilty of fraud and false advertising.

    Sony is slime. They're every bit as bad as Monoposoft and Crapple in their love of exploiting the user and crippling their products to satisfy big media cartels at the expense of the end user. It probably serves anyone who was foolish enough to buy a PAYstation 3 right. At least the RROD BOX 360 just has shoddy hardware. You know where Monoposoft stands on Linux support from the beginning. (Not that I advise buying one of those anyway).

    Slightly off topic, but video game consoles this generation are just a complete and utter rip off. Has anyone but me noticed that games went up $10 each and that they only ship half the game on that disc and make you spend another $40 downloading it piece by piece from them?

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    You do know that using stupid names for company doesn't make you look smarter and them worse right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
    You do know that using stupid names for company doesn't make you look smarter and them worse right?
    Well, they are still criminals and thieves, and I am not. There's that.

    Between them you have general fraud, false advertising, monopoly abuse, theft (I consider DRM a form of theft against the user), racketeering, tax evasion, and paying "independent" reviewers to spread libel about competitors. These people would all be in prison if they weren't rich.
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