New Features Approved For Fedora 17

[phoronix]

Phoronix: New Features Approved For Fedora 17

There was a FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee) meeting held today where several new features were approved for the Fedora 17 feature list...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTAyNzI

[Kano]

btrfs as default? that filesystem is in real live applications like live image creation using live-build (debian) slow as hell - takes several times longer than the same tried with ext4. Is there any special mount option needed that this task is getting faster or is their usual fedora dev workload so much differnent...

[bulletxt]

Brtfs as default file system? They must be mad. I would never put my data on a such filesystem. It doesn't even have a fsck file system check. How can they even consider moving to Btrfs?

[zoomblab]

Thanks but no thanks. I will never use the Oracle FS.

[Teho]

It doesn't even have a fsck file system check. How can they even consider moving to Btrfs?

Note that Btrfs does not yet have a fsck tool that can fix errors. While Btrfs is stable on a stable machine, it is currently possible to corrupt a filesystem irrecoverably if your machine crashes or loses power on disks that don't handle flush requests correctly. This will be fixed when the fsck tool is ready.

https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/

Fedora's feature plans are flexible and if fsck for BTRFS isn't ready in time they will simply stay with ext4 until next release.

Contingency Plan
We can just keep ext4 as the default installed file system.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Featu...BtrfsDefaultFs

Thanks but no thanks. I will never use the Oracle FS.

That's rich.

Btrfs is licensed under the GPL and open for contribution from anyone.

[RahulSundaram]

btrfs as default? that filesystem is in real live applications like live image creation using live-build (debian) slow as hell - takes several times longer than the same tried with ext4. Is there any special mount option needed that this task is getting faster or is their usual fedora dev workload so much differnent...

Josef Basik, Red Hat Btrfs filesystem developer is working on this problem. This is one of the things (along with fsck) that must be in place for Fedora 17. If not, Ext4 will stay as default.

[stqn]

Glad to see official support for D2! (Though I use Arch myself...)

[GreatEmerald]

What do they mean by D2 support? GDC installed by default? LLVM D compiler installed by default? DMD installed by default? Something entirely different?

[stqn]

In fact if I am to believe Fedora's wiki, D2 was included in Fedora 16 already. Also, they are shipping LDC, not DMD.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/D2_programming

[ssam]

i wonder if ext4 -> btrfs will be handled in the way as gnome2 -> gnome3. i.e. drop ext4 from the distro, and call anyone who does not want to 'upgrade' a luddite, or suggest that they use fat32. that would be fun. :-)