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  1. 11-10-2008, 05:47 AM #401
    Xtigyro
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    Shockwave Flash

    File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
    Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
    application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

    EVERYTHING IS BY DEFAULT. The problem persists in openSuSE, Mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint... I've tried them all. One by One.
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  2. 11-10-2008, 05:49 AM #402
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    There is a lot of flickering, while i'm playing video files (in all players - VLC, Xine, MPlayer) or flash clips in firefox (YouTube - Broadcast Yourself, for example).
    It makes no difference, if i'm using the opensource ATI driver - radeonhd or the propriety driver - fglrx (i've tested the whole version tree from 8.33 to 8.542).

    Compiz Fusion Manager is disabled.

    This is my original 'xorg.conf' file (openSuSE 11.0):
    .................................................. ..............

    Section "Files"
    InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
    InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
    FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
    FontPath "/usr/local/share/fonts"
    EndSection

    Section "ServerFlags"
    Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
    Option "ZapWarning" "on"
    EndSection

    Section "Module"
    Load "dbe"
    Load "type1"
    Load "freetype"
    Load "extmod"
    Load "glx"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "kbd"
    Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
    Option "Protocol" "Standard"
    Option "XkbLayout" "us"
    Option "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
    Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
    EndSection


    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "mouse"
    Identifier "Mouse[1]"
    Option "Buttons" "12"
    Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option "Name" "Logitech USB Optical Mouse"
    Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
    Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection

    Section "InputDevice"
    Driver "synaptics"
    Identifier "Mouse[3]"
    Option "Buttons" "5"
    Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option "Emulate3Buttons" "on"
    Option "HorizScrollDelta" "0"
    Option "InputFashion" "Mouse"
    Option "Name" "Synaptics;Touchpad"
    Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
    Option "SHMConfig" "on"
    Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
    Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    EndSection


    Section "Monitor"
    DisplaySize 367 230
    HorizSync 30-82
    Identifier "Monitor[0]"
    ModelName "LGPHILIPSLCD LCD MONITOR"
    Option "DPMS"
    Option "PreferredMode" "1680x1050"
    VendorName "LPL"
    VertRefresh 43-60
    UseModes "Modes[0]"
    EndSection


    Section "Modes"
    Identifier "Modes[0]"
    Modeline "1680x1050" 147.14 1680 1784 1968 2256 1050 1051 1054 1087
    Modeline "1680x1050" 117.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 1050 1053 1059 1080 +HSync -Vsync
    EndSection


    Section "Screen"
    DefaultDepth 24
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 15
    Modes "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 16
    Modes "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 24
    Modes "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
    SubSection "Display"
    Depth 8
    Modes "1680x1050"
    EndSubSection
    Device "Device[0]"
    Identifier "Screen[0]"
    Monitor "Monitor[0]"
    EndSection


    Section "Device"
    BoardName "Mobility Radeon X1600"
    BusID "1:0:0"
    Driver "radeonhd"
    Identifier "Device[0]"
    Option "monitor-PANEL" "Monitor[0]"
    VendorName "ATI"
    EndSection



    Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "Layout[all]"
    InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice "Mouse[3]" "SendCoreEvents"
    Option "Clone" "off"
    Option "Xinerama" "off"
    Screen "Screen[0]"
    EndSection


    Section "DRI"
    Group "video"
    Mode 0660
    EndSection

    Section "Extensions"
    EndSection
    .................................................. ..............



    I've also tried some tweaking in the 'xorg.file' (when ATI FGLRX driver is enabled) like:
    Option "TexturedVideo" "off"
    Option "VideoOverlay" "on/off"
    Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
    Option "XvmcUsesTextures" "True"
    Section "Device"
    Identifier "Device[0]"
    Driver "radeon"
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "True"
    Option "AGPMode" "8"
    Option "AccelMethod" "XAA"
    Option "ColorTiling" "On"
    # Option "AccelDFS" "True"
    # This can speed up movie playback but can in rare cases case instability
    # Option "DMAForXv" "True"
    # Option "GARTSize" "512"
    Option "RenderAccel" "True"
    Option "VGAAccess" "True"
    Option "BusType" "AGP"
    EndSection

    Section "Device"
    Identifier "Device[1]"
    Driver "fglrx"
    BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
    Option "UseFastTLS" "2"
    EndSection

    Section "Extensions"
    Option "Composite" "Disable"
    EndSection
    ...
    ........
    No difference !

    Any suggestions !?!
    Or it's an ATI driver issue.
    Last edited by Xtigyro; 11-10-2008 at 05:57 AM.
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  3. 11-10-2008, 05:52 AM #403
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtigyro View Post
    Shockwave Flash

    File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
    Shockwave Flash 9.0 r124

    MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
    application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
    application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

    EVERYTHING IS BY DEFAULT. The problem persists in openSuSE, Mandriva, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint... I've tried them all. One by One.
    * net-www/netscape-flash
    Latest version available: 10.0.12.36-r1
    Latest version installed: 10.0.12.36-r1

    and I don't see flickering on youtube. I do see flickering with tvtime (which needs xv) and xine (but flickering is gone when I use xshm instead of xv).
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  4. 11-10-2008, 07:28 AM #404
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    Yes, XV, yes. You say "XV Enabled" and now "flickering is gone when use xshm instead of xv". COOL.

    I wanna ask you, DO YOU NOTICE ANY DIFFERENCE IN QUALITY (the poor quality) when playing video files with xshm driver output enabled (even if there isn't really so much flickering, I ADMIT) ?
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  5. 11-10-2008, 07:36 AM #405
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    ok, slow:
    with desktop effects enabled:
    flash is perfectly fine
    xine and tvtime using xv are flickering
    xine using xshm is fine.

    with desktop effects disabled:
    flash is perfectly fine
    xine and tvtime using xv are flicker free
    xine using xshm is fine.

    If there are differences in the quality they are small enough that I don't recognize them.
    With kde 4.X it is easy, just a single click to turn effects on/off. So most of the time I have effects on, and only if I want watching tv with tvtime I turn them off. I watch tv once a week .... I watch youtube every day - and no flickering there.
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  6. 11-10-2008, 08:29 AM #406
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    With so much self-confidence and no real questions and answers... The fglrx driver (AMD.ATI DRIVER) ISSUES are going to last for a very very long time.
    Look at these snapshots. Relax. And take your time. I know there is no problem. Just be positive and everything gonna be alright.

    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...yro/xshm-1.png
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...Igyro/xv-1.png
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...ro/xshm1-1.png
    http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...gyro/xv1-1.png

    All snapshots were taken "with desktop effects disabled".
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  7. 11-10-2008, 08:36 AM #407
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    and of course you compare the exact same frame, do you?
    in everyday video watching, the differences are small enough, not to bother me. And flash simply works perfectly. Just upgrade to a non-broken version.
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  8. 11-10-2008, 08:51 AM #408
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    No, it's not the exact same frame... +/- 0.100 sec.
    And even with xshm driver output, there is still flickering (not so much, but it's there).

    The difference in picture quality is absolutely obvious. And there are 41 pages with other users, which are capable of seeing it.
    Last edited by Xtigyro; 11-10-2008 at 08:57 AM.
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  9. 11-10-2008, 08:59 AM #409
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    it might be obvious when you put them next to each other or comparing screen shots, but in normal usage?

    and hey, is it really so bad to turn of effects while watching a video? If you are watching so closely that shm's degradion becomes prominent, desktop effects are either not needed or just very disturbing.
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  10. 11-10-2008, 09:27 AM #410
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    As I said... With so much self-confidence and no real questions and answers... Just "(re)read" post #406 TO THE END, pls.

    No more off-topic posts.
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