Goodbye ATI

[Kano]

@sabriah

If you really run fglrx you can certainly show me how you use skype with xserver 1.11 + fglrx.

[Fenrin]

...how you use skype with xserver 1.11 + fglrx.

IMHO AMD shouldn't waste development resources to support proprietary Microsoft crap programs under Linux
Mumble is a good free and open alternative to this.

[RealNC]

IMHO AMD shouldn't waste development resources to support proprietary Microsoft crap programs under Linux
Mumble is a good free and open alternative to this.

No, it is not. Mumble is not a P2P VoiP solution. Mumble and Skype are vastly different from each other and have different purposes and uses.

[crazycheese]

IMHO AMD shouldn't waste development resources to support proprietary Microsoft crap programs under Linux
Mumble is a good free and open alternative to this.

Application type does not matter, so long it is using standartized libraries and calls.

Skype is widely used for corporate communications (don´t ask), primary because its easy to work with.
So, if MS drops Skype (edit: I mean from linux, linux version support), some companies will switch to Ekiga, xmpp voip and similar.

[Fenrin]

No, it is not. Mumble is not a P2P VoiP solution. Mumble and Skype are vastly different from each other and have different purposes and uses.

fair enough! But then he could still use his phone... [/ironymode]

thanks for clarifying.

[bug77]

IMHO AMD shouldn't waste development resources to support proprietary Microsoft crap programs under Linux

That's one of the biggest problems with Linux fanboys. You can't have 2% market share on desktops and act like the rest of the world doesn't exist because it's closed source.
And any manufacturer should bend over backwards to support stuff people use.

[Qaridarium]

@sabriah

If you really run fglrx you can certainly show me how you use skype with xserver 1.11 + fglrx.

nothing special i do have a customer with radeon driver and catalyst driver and they wonder why they can't use some software with the catalyst.
he do have a ipod and use kubuntu but he can not open the musik software Banshee to manage his ipod musik because of the Catalyst.
on the other pc with the radeon driver it works well...

in fact the catalyst is just a waste of money!..

[crazycheese]

That's one of the biggest problems with Linux fanboys. You can't have 2% market share on desktops and act like the rest of the world doesn't exist because it's closed source.
And any manufacturer should bend over backwards to support stuff people use.

Linux fanboys have nothing to do with it. You sure mean opensource purists.
While opensource IS good, I personally have no problem with closed source as long as it fills ALL of above:
[x] supported (incl. bugs and security)
[x] known not to have malware or spyware
[x] does not impose or represent itself as a standard protocol
[x] has free alternative (no matter with what feature difference)

For example, if I use inkscape and other guy coreldraw, and if we can both exchange SVGs - I have no problem with coreldraw.

[crazycheese]

...musik software Banshee...

Kill it with fire!!!

[Qaridarium]

Kill it with fire!!!

i don't use it... and i don't buy apple products but he need it for his ipod.

but catalyst makes it imposable