a browser solution is not a p2p application ? the browser solution only works for big players like google!
Originally Posted by asdx
for small people without a web-space it just don't work.
This is one of things I appreciate Nvidia does not do. They are not against nouveau.
Skype is straight crap, straight from its birth as Kazaa (Malware p2p) up till today.
What was that guy doing, is trying to make skype available on non-w32, the thing that skype itself should have done.
Well, Skype has just shown off what piece of crap it is. Apparently devices to monitor and decode skype communications have been LONG available to governments and agencies (in case somebody thinks its secure), so it has virtually no advantages.
Im using ekiga to communicate with w32 machine of my relatives, no problem.
I still wait for pidgin to implement video/audio from unix machines to w32.
The existence of the intellectual properties in the usa questiones the freedom of the usa market, and also questiones legitimity of the regime of usa.
WTF? Who the hell cares? We don't need open source implementations of reverse engineered proprietary protocols when we have FULLY OPEN protocols that do the same thing, but better, and aren't subject to the random protocol changes that break everything without notice.
We != Me. Open protocols are welcome, but I have to connect with people who still use Skype and I certainly don't want to resort to Windows partitions or using Skype under wine, or using a 1+ years old version of skype beta for linux.
Originally Posted by droidhacker
DMCA? That's disgusting. I'm glad I don't use Skype.
Gene is out of the bottle/ Open-Source must be addaptive
True, MS bought Skype; True the code was purchased at the time of purchase. Question remains: Was the 'Skype' code available as a open-sourced code up until that moment? If so, the 'gene is out of the bottle' (Grandfathered) code.
I submit: Because the -open source' code was available pre MS purchase the existence of use was years prior; Can the 'open-sourced' code, available 'pre MS purchase' be re branded; and use existing 'port' functions? I think so.
When MS purchased 'Skype/ code': They now have the rights to alter that code how they see fit, from that point forward. Previous 'open-sourced' versions; however, might be 're-branded' and 'fork off' to create an independent application.
This could be in the form of an adaptive 'Google+ (Hang Out) tool. A Google 'sponsored' open source application that can be used to contact 'Skype/ Google+' client lists might be developed? Reliance on driver specifics for hardware use has already been developed for the 'Google+' (Hang Out) appliance. It would be a matter of either porting the existing contact info from an open-sourced 'Skype'; or creating them independently, one at a time.
I remind the developers about the existence of 'Pigeon Internet Messaging (PIM)' as a starting platform. Just add Video/Audio functions and a wider array of function to pre-existing' IM services is available. This again excludes the client list of Skype; as PIM opens Skype independently. Expand the PIM function to accept individual 'manual' entry of a contact list might be the only alternative for 'Skype' contact lists; as it might be considered a violation of service to port list as a mass 'export'.
Like with all network changes: 'morphing' into a better application takes organization and planning. Do not give up!!
When was skype ever open-source? This is talking about an attempt to reverse-engineer the skype protocol, which has always been closed-source and proprietary as far as I am aware.
I think our only hope is that microsoft makes skype xmpp compatible like they did with msn. I don't think it is impossible, if they are pushing xmpp it makes sense to make all their products compatible with it.
Bullsh**. Tell your retard's to upgrade to open protocols. Ekiga.net accounts are FREE and offer SIP-to-SIP (no PSTN linkup).
Originally Posted by halo9en
Negatie input, breads negative results ... .
Prior to MS purchase of Skype: I used two versions. One Linux(Ubuntu); the other MS(Windows 7). After MS Purchased: When I added a new contact in Linux, which is working; this same contact was not present in MS. Using the recipricating method; I am able to add a contact in MS, and havevisible in the Linux version (Skype 2.2 (Beta)).
The fore mentioned version of Skype might have been 'open sourced' at one time (Pre-MS Sale). This is not the argument: Skype is now a MS subsidiary. Running from WINE has 'layering' issue that make the application inoperable. Skype is now proprietary software.
Using 'xmpp' is a starting point. At present: 'Pigeon Internet Messaging (PIM)' will allow activation Skype 2.2 (Beta). Only the (Beta) application runs independently; seperate from (PIM). This (Beta) mod must have been developed at a time prior to MS purchase; the newer versions of MS Skype only accept 'grandfathered' contact lists, for the (Beta). At present: New contacts created in MS Skype are operable from the (Beta). This too may change.
Because MSN in PIM is available; AND (Beta) as a seperate executable - It stands to reason that MSN may become inoperable, in the future. Maybe, that is the original purpose for the MS purchase of Skype? To exclude MSN from PIM like application.
Constructive evaluation of the issue will aid in a progressive path for resolution. Negatie input, breads negative results; AND only looses trackion towards the agreed on goal.
What is that goal? I do not know; however, getting there is not following the 'path of least resistance'.