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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    KDM is so damn unmaintained, I doubt that KDM even uses relatively recent Plasma Workspace features. So whether to write code to make KDM use those features or do the same for LightDM-KDE shouldn't matter much.
    The difference is, LightDM is cross-platform. Personally, I think replacement of all other login managers by this LightDM is a great idea.

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    Interesting replies, thanks. I'll admit I was operating under the presumption that KDM is roughly equivalent to GDM, and thus thinking that Matthew's argument against replacing GDM with LightDM was applicable to KDM vs. LightDM-KDE. Seems to be not so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hirager View Post
    The difference is, LightDM is cross-platform. Personally, I think replacement of all other login managers by this LightDM is a great idea.
    LightDM is currently not cross-platform. Or have you seen a port to FreeBSD or any other non-Linux OS anywhere? LightDM is – within the Linux ecosystem – cross-desktop but that's different from cross-platform.
    The blog post from Matthew Garrett is correct in that regard that it makes no sense to replace a well maintained, fully working display manager with something LightDM-based. LightDM is indeed relatively new code. Simply throwing everything out just for fun is crazy. Granted, it's ironic to read that from a GNOME person, because the GNOME project did such stupid things several times (PulseAudio, GStreamer, Empathy). ;-)

    In case of KDE the premise is entirely different: KDM – while working well – is relatively unmaintained and full of legacy technologies. An entirely new front-end (or Greeter in LightDM terminology) using QML/Plasma would be needed to be written anyway and – as Matthew Garrett also wrote – LightDM makes it easy to start from scratch.
    From KDE’s POV using LightDM makes a lot of sense: The only required workload is the new Greeter. The rest is managed by other people.
    KDM can easily be kept until LightDM-KDE is ready (incl. BSD ports).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesomeness View Post
    LightDM is currently not cross-platform. Or have you seen a port to FreeBSD or any other non-Linux OS anywhere? LightDM is – within the Linux ecosystem – cross-desktop but that's different from cross-platform.
    The blog post from Matthew Garrett is correct in that regard that it makes no sense to replace a well maintained, fully working display manager with something LightDM-based. LightDM is indeed relatively new code. Simply throwing everything out just for fun is crazy. Granted, it's ironic to read that from a GNOME person, because the GNOME project did such stupid things several times (PulseAudio, GStreamer, Empathy). ;-)

    In case of KDE the premise is entirely different: KDM – while working well – is relatively unmaintained and full of legacy technologies. An entirely new front-end (or Greeter in LightDM terminology) using QML/Plasma would be needed to be written anyway and – as Matthew Garrett also wrote – LightDM makes it easy to start from scratch.
    From KDE’s POV using LightDM makes a lot of sense: The only required workload is the new Greeter. The rest is managed by other people.
    KDM can easily be kept until LightDM-KDE is ready (incl. BSD ports).
    Yup, my bad choice of word.

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