Many FSF Priority Projects Still Not Progressing

[XorEaxEax]

Let's not be childish. Most recently Microsoft came up with Kinect.

They bought the Kinect technology from PrimeSense, they also recently bought Skype. Again where is Microsoft's 'innovation'?

As for Apple, they basically changed the mobile gadgets ecosystem and put everyone in a state of pursuit It's not about liking them, its about admitting facts.

A polished experience is not 'innovation', nor is an AppStore.

[prokoudine]

They bought the Kinect technology from PrimeSense

OK, fair enough

[droidhacker]

Most of those projects are pointless....
gnash? Who the hell cares? Flash is well on its way to irrelevance and won't be missed.
coreboot would be nice, but won't go anywhere until MS finally dies (fortunately, the world is transitioning to mobile, and that is where MS is a dead duck)
skype? The world is FULL of free replacements for that proprietary CRAP, mature, and HEAVILY USED. In fact, there is even an open source replacement for ALL PROTOCOLS AND INFRASTRUCTURE used there, in particular, based on the SIP protocol. This fully open protocol is WORLDS SUPERIOR TO THAT CRAP GARBAGE TRASH DIE DIE DIE SKYPE CRAP PIECE OF SHIT. We ABSOLUTELY DO NOT need to propagate that CRAP by developing free INTERFACES to it. It needs to DIE, and the best way to do this is to leave it TOTALLY UNSUPPORTED.
Free google earth replacement? Uh... the software behind google earth is barely more than TRIVIAL to implement. The missing piece here is DATA. Unless you can get a slew of FREE SATELLITE IMAGES covering the ENTIRE PLANET in HIGH DETAIL, and also STREET MAPS (complete and accurate), then any attempt to duplicate this software is destined to FAIL.
After this, there are a couple of interesting things mentions... but finally, the list ends on powervr drivers, but GUESS WHAT? The ONLY place where lack of this was ever crippling, was with the INTEL POULSBO, which now works OUT OF THE BOX with recent linux distros. I could give a flying f*** about 3D, the hardware that these chips ship with isn't powerful enough the even USE 3d, making it totally pointless. Display works now, without POS proprietary crap.

[yogi_berra]

I'm not sure why there's FUD that I hate the GPL.

You were critical of the free software foundation, you can't do that without setting certain people off. In fact you really can't be critical at all without being labeled a troll or a shill.

[amani]

Fact: RMS pointed out that Gnash and Coreboot are not supported by FSF. In fact the 'priority projects' in that list are not supported financially by FSF.
Gnash has its uses and gets its funds from elsewhere.
There are GSOC projects for it this time.

http://www.ilug-cal.info/pipermail/l...il/002836.html

[Candide]

Michael, I want to let you know that I appreciate you publishing this article, which indeed was informative. Please don't be discouraged by the usual trolls who show up to attack you. Sad to say that the Internet enables these losers to anonymously heap abuse on people like you who actually create useful content for us geeks to read. What the trolls are really saying is that, "Hey, look at me, I'm a know-nothing loser, I can't write anything useful but I can make myself look cool by attacking those who are actually productive."

As for the article itself, I had been wondering what was happening with Gnash. Sad to see it stagnating, but glad to hear that Lightspark has picked up the baton. Much as we might all wish Flash to disappear from the Internet, that won't happen for at least a few more years, so it would be nice to have a fully-functional free tool that doesn't make us dependent on Adobe (which recently announced that they will no longer update Flash for Linux).

[Paradox Uncreated]

I think you should get a special reward just for mentioning the Atari Falcon.

Actually I talked (emailed) with RMS now, and maybe I did adopt too much sympathy for the FSF label.
Some of these people involved in opensource seems to have some obscure ideas. While I do think the GPL is the most open source, and supporting only open source, and not opensource becoming closed source, and branchobscurities (BSD/MIT), RMS insisted on opensource being a "different concept" and that I should use the term "free software". I thought that maybe he has thought more on this than me, so I entertained the idea for a week or so, trying to replace the word opensource with free software. The first thing I noticed was, the confusion with "free". So I had to add the slogan "free as in speech, not as in beer". I don`t even like beer, and having to mention it, is not my favorite pasttime. Still I thought, he knows more about this than me. I tried.. and tried.. and in the end had to refuse the whole thing, and go back to using the word open source. It is just a word. It expresses an idea, and the GPL supports that idea. I did then realize that maybe people react on FSF because of some of these obscurities, and I am a big believer in natural human response.

So, I remain more of a neutral in this situation.

Peace!

[randomizer]

...RMS insisted on opensource being a "different concept" and that I should use the term "free software".

He's right, as long as you're happy to argue semantics. However, when it comes to things like licences semantics are everything, so you have to give the guy some slack. Libre (free as in freedom) software is always open source, but open source software is not necessarily libre. "Open source" is a looser term that at face value could simply mean that you can see the source code.

[Paradox Uncreated]

He's right, as long as you're happy to argue semantics. However, when it comes to things like licences semantics are everything, so you have to give the guy some slack. Libre (free as in freedom) software is always open source, but open source software is not necessarily libre. "Open source" is a looser term that at face value could simply mean that you can see the source code.

d00d, if this thing with "freedom" was so important, why not "freedom software", and not "free/libre" (free as in speech, NOT OPEN SOURCE, that offends us etc.) Don`t you understand that this becomes too obscure? Open source is very popular now, and we have near-professional distributions like Ubuntu. You know without the geeky referances to girls (retarded whores are good for geeks/intelligent men/engineers style wallpapers, which about everyone who has ever tried that knows that is wrong) or the hippie who insists on raggamuffin in his errormessages. YOU GOTS DA ERROR, NOW LOOK AT THIS NOOD WOM4N.

Opensource is opensource though, but the point is, if you want to reach a professional audience, and people in general, you have to drop silly attitudes, and make something that decent conservative people can use. And that goes for all the unnescesary statements with "free software" also. The term opensource to me and many more obviously mean what is intended, and the rest is superfluous, and hinders from being respected and socially accepted. Stuff like these plague a bit opensource, and yeah, if it wants to go from obscurity to generality, it must do so in it`s philosophy and people too.

Peace.

[Paradox Uncreated]

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Peace.