Valve's Gabe Newell Talks Linux Steam Client, Source Engine

[YaPeL]

From Michael twitter:

>>@ID_AA_Carmack So when are we getting Linux binaries for Rage?

>>@joedaviso I heard it ran fine under Wine. No plans for a native linux client.

So no rage for linux, also:

John Carmack : there is a native linux client for QuakeLive, but it saw less than 20% of the users the mac got, despite a better version.

Don't get your hopes to high with steam for linux even if it comes out.

[Kivada]

Kivada, get off your high horse and back onto level ground. You do realise this site is a blog, evidenced by the articles about beer, Chernobyl, Ocktoberfest etc. Michael posts about whatever interests him. Yes, criticism is good and hopefully Michael will listen to some points such as proving actual quotes from Gabe and people he is interviewing and a little less personal opinion at times, but if you're reading the article and commenting in the forums then clearly you have SOME interest in the same stuff that Michael does. So face it - you're a freeloader if you refuse to allow ads on a site you're ACTIVELY READING AND POSTING IN (239 posts!?!), to help support it.

If you haven't noticed yet, I don't particularly give a shit about what you think of my blocking ads, if this is just a blog done in his spare time then why has Larabel whined about not being taken seriously by hardware manufacturers or software developers.

The only reason I care is because this THE ONLY Linux review site and Larabel's actions reflect badly on the open source community as a whole, theres a reason this site is so reviled on most other forums and that reason is Larabel. If you want to coddle him and ignore all the stupid things he does then you are part of the problem. Yeah, Linux has made great strides in the last few years, but that seems to have much more to do with the consolidation of users under Ubuntu then anything else as non OSS developers only want to have to worry about a single platform instead of fielding support questions of dozens of distros each with their own little nuances when they know exactly what they're getting with traditional platforms like Windows and OS X and thus expect the same of Linux.

So yeah, I'm going to take every chance I get to rub Larabel's face in it like a puppy that has taken a shit on the carpet irregardless of weather he finally gets off his ass and does something about it.

So I'll get off my horse when you get off yours.

[Kivada]

Completely agreed, this is the time to rally as much as possible and at the least, file bug reports against any problems we find! Things will take time, but I personally think this could be the start of something big IF we can organise and do as much as we can to support the community and especially the devs.
(off topic here, but I am a bit more concerned about things like the hardware incompatibility we've been seeing with things like Optimus though, hindering potential new users)

In fact I just remembered something, the entire reason I even joined the site was to PM Larabel about Beating the dead horse of Steam for Linux and providing this link from back in 2010 http://www.gamesindustry.biz/article...terview?page=2

Q: Final question, and one I'm sure you're not super-keen to answer, but I promised one of our tech guys I'd ask it. What truth is there to rumours that you're also working on a Linux version of Steam?

Doug Lombardi: There's no Linux version that we're working on right now. ...

As you may have guessed, 2 YEARS later an Larabel is still at it and the quality of the site is still terrible.

[benmoran]

Waaaaa, Waaaaaaa

[Kamikaze]

>>@ID_AA_Carmack So when are we getting Linux binaries for Rage?

>>@joedaviso I heard it ran fine under Wine. No plans for a native linux client.

So no rage for linux

Well, that sucks, but there's plenty of time for things to change. If Valve do manage to pull off a console based on Linux then if companies like iD want to develop for it they'll likely have to make a native linux binary or maybe a supported winelib version at the least.

In fact I just remembered something, the entire reason I even joined the site was to PM Larabel about Beating the dead horse of Steam for Linux and providing this link from back in 2010

Yeah, no idea why you just quoted an entirely separate post of mine with that useless response. Thanks for contributing... I really need to learn not to feed the trolls. Go start your own thread or something.

[smitty3268]

The only reason I care is because this THE ONLY Linux review site and Larabel's actions reflect badly on the open source community as a whole

I'm sympathetic towards this argument, but I don't think your actions are reflecting any better than his.

[Setlec]

I'm sympathetic towards this argument, but I don't think your actions are reflecting any better than his.

lol well said!

[Larian]

John Carmack : there is a native linux client for QuakeLive, but it saw less than 20% of the users the mac got, despite a better version.

I wonder if he means the same QuakeLive client that wouldn't run on my Linux system. I tried it on three different distros (2 Ubuntu and one Mint), and while it installed on 2 of them, neither would let me go in-game. I lost interest. Besides, frag-tag isn't my favorite play style.

[Setlec]

i used to beta test QuakeLive it on linux (mandriva at that time) it worked nicely then as the beta ended, i didn't care much about it. though i wouldn't mind that id updates ETQW.

[susikala]

Despite his abrasive tone, Kivada is more or less right. Phoronix (let's not get personal!) is using the fact it's more or less the only Linux review site out there and does basically whatever it wants. News here is on par with a tabloid, the benchmarks (so far as I can tell from reading the first few replies, I don't actually ever look at the benchmarks themselves) seem useless for most people as they don't ever cover interesting aspects, and the general tone in which most articles are written is populist, devoid of much intelligence, common, and frankly sometimes quite childish and amateur. I mean, the need to quote oneself on any and every occasion and link to past articles all over the place even if they're only remotely related or were posted the day before really comes off as annoying most of the time, the visual image I get from that at best is of a dog licking its own balls.

_That_ all said, the fact no one has broken this monopoly yet by doing an alternative review / news site kind of paints most criticism in shades of grey. This is the Linux world, after all. You don't like it, fork it. That no one has done it before shows that after all, it's not that easy, and that running such a show on one's own for a while is bound to have consequences -- I've been watching this site in the last few years turning into a really messy pile of self-glorification, money greed and baseless journalism.

Regarding the topic concretely at hand: I'd like to believe it, but the article contains nothing new or concrete. People are measured by deeds, not by words, so let's first see something concrete before we believe it. At best from Valve itself, and not from this poodle site.