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Thread: NVIDIA GTX 680: Windows 7 vs. Ubuntu 12.04

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilboa View Post
    In my small little world, I'd first find the fastest Linux distribution and *than* compare it to OSX and Windows 7... But guess its just me.
    A highly tweaked, system-specific distro vs (relatively) unoptimised, designed-to-work-on-everything OSs. Yep, that sounds like a worthwhile comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teho View Post
    No one here's deciding what is Linux and what is not. This was a comparson between Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 not Windows 7 and Linux.
    I beg to differ.


    There's nothing realible in Distrowatch. None. If you want something that gives even some hint of what popular and what is not then Google Trends is a good start:
    https://www.google.fi/trends/?q=Ubun...ate=all&sort=0
    Again, I beg to differ.
    Google trends is just as reliable (or unreliable) as Distrowatch.

    I guess it is fun to test the difference between various Ubuntu spins but this test is not about that. You do understand that it takes time to do tests and those distributions have only a fraction of Ubuntu's userbase.
    ... So the solution is to select the slowest spin. OK.

    What exactly would those results tell us? I mean I think it's a bit more valuable information to know how actually useful platforms perfom than something that is tweaked for just one setup or used by no one.
    I doubt that Kubuntu, or Fedora, or Debian or OpenSUSE used by no-one uses but OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randomizer View Post
    A highly tweaked, system-specific distro vs (relatively) unoptimised, designed-to-work-on-everything OSs. Yep, that sounds like a worthwhile comparison.
    So in your book, Feodra, OpenSUSE, Debian or even, God forbids, Kubunutu / Xubunutu are "highly-optimized" system-specific distributions.
    Yet another, "Oh, OK".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilboa View Post
    Google trends is just as reliable (or unreliable) as Distrowatch.
    Well do you see the problem here? They give totally different results. From distriwatch page:

    DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking
    The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics have attracted plenty of attention and feedback over the years. Originally, each distribution-specific page was pure HTML with a third-party counter at the bottom to monitor interest of visitors. In May 2004 the site switched from publicly viewable third-party counters to internal counters. This was prompted by a continuous abuse of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals who had confused DistroWatch with a poll station. The counters are no longer displayed on the individual distributions pages, but all visits are logged. Only one hit per IP address per day is counted.

    The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed each day, nothing more.
    How in the hell does page hits on a small site that looks like its from the ninetiens with content that most linux wouldn't care about tell us ubout the overall popularity of Linux distributions? I mean Ubuntu is a mainstream distribution; it's used by mostly normal people not distrohoppers.


    Quote Originally Posted by gilboa View Post
    ... So the solution is to select the slowest spin. OK.
    The most popular. How hard is that to understand?

    Quote Originally Posted by gilboa View Post
    I doubt that Kubuntu, or Fedora, or Debian or OpenSUSE account for "noone", but OK. -- So in your book, Feodra, OpenSUSE, Debian or even, God forbids, Kubunutu / Xubunutu are "highly-optimized" system-specific distributions.
    Yet another, "Oh, OK".
    You can't honestly believe that main stream distributions like openSUSE or Fedora performe the best? Ubuntu has pretty modern video drivers so it's probably on a better side on that. The only thing that makes some but only a little difference is the window manager, Compiz. I'm pretty sure that someone with Gentoo has setup with an environment that has best graphical performance possible; shouldn't we test that by your defenition?

    Quote Originally Posted by teho
    No one here's deciding what is Linux and what is not. This was a comparson between Windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 not Windows 7 and Linux.
    Quote Originally Posted by gilboa View Post
    .I beg to differ.
    Explain. I have no idea where you got the idea.

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    as a long time slackware user, i can say i google way more "ubuntu" then "slackware"
    its a distro that dosent need google much if you read etc's and man's

    and for anyone that asks me i tell them to install xubuntu or fedora-xfce (cuz theres a gui for everything in them)

    Google are pro's at general statistics, distrowatch althou not as profesional as google has specialised at distros.
    bouth cant possibly measure distro adoption precisely

    still i belief normal/unity ubuntu is by far the most distributed distro simply cuz its comercialised the most

    but i also think that people dont plan to play games or use opencl in linux, just browse the web mainly(ofc movies music and documents too)

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