Right, and as I've said before, I don't care if there's dozens of distros, as long as they're good and have something new or compelling to offer. For example, I think its perfectly acceptable for there to be a different ubuntu for each DE. There's enough changes to qualify as new distros. But I remember when I first got into linux about 5 years ago, the GNOME setups for ubuntu, mint, fedora, suse, and so on were all nearly identical. They had varying colors, some of them came with a different office suite or package manager, but otherwise they were pretty much all the same and it would only take a few minutes to change one of the distros to be almost exactly like one of the others. And yes I know you can argue that some of them have special features that only 1 distro may have, or some of them are more stable or cutting-edge than others, but in the end a desktop user just wants it to work well. Back to the gum analogy, the way its working now is if all these companies were shoved in the same room, they're arguing over what kind of packaging to use, whether that that be plastic, foil, or paper. They're still arguing but its an unproductive argument.In some cases, the different flavors of Linux are very distinguishable, and that's just from a user perspective. Even when the flavors are close, if you put the "employees" of a lot of these "companies" in the same room and told them to design and make gum, they would end up strangling each other before ever making a viable product.