Originally Posted by
mrhat
Dear Phoronix,
I have this one little thing to say here that might be a good thing to consider once in a while:
For a lot of people, FGLRX won't work. But that is fine for us, because of course we have you and your awesome open source drivers - Thank you for this!!
But:
For some people, just some, even your awesome radeon driver does not work properly - Sometimes graphics are glitchy to a point, where it becomes unsuable, sometimes it seems impossible to properly set up the driver (e.g. on sandy- and ivy-machines). And sometimes, the radeon driver does not at all seem to be able to execute proper power-saving routines. (And don't even get started about WINE and radeon.)
I myself am not to much of a hot-shot when it comes to technical things - but I do know, that for the almost 3 years since I started to use linux now, the problems with AMD-cards have always been the same: Incompatibility (with everything) and power saving (battery life and noise)
Look, I know it must be a real pain to get things done when the actual manufacturer shows little support for an open source project. BUT: In these years I have gotten to know some people, who just don't believe anymore they will EVER see reliable Linux support for their AMD hardware. It's the known "it-works-for-some-but-not-for-all" effect - Some get a more or less good 3d acceleration out of radeon - and some don't.
But instead of closing this gap, it keeps on growing ever larger! Of course, everybody is happy when radeon keeps up the pace of performance with fglrx. But this doesn't help people who don't get any acceleration at all! So, we're all happy about huge performance increases with kernel 3.5 . But some people are still completely excluded from those benefits.
People are really getting alienated - not just by you, but by the whole linux-community at large.
For example: Starting with Torvalds' statements on the new kernels, over to the Ubuntu-Team, over to the WINE-community, over to phoronix, people have been keeping on claiming: "Finally - Sandybridge and Ivybridge support is working now!" - and have thus been turning to other issues.
Truth is: For a lot of machines, it doesn't work at all.
Truth is: If you've got an AMD card in you machine and you're not one of the lucky ones where it works out-of-the-box, you're pretty much screwed. VESA for you it is.
And: You won't get any help, because the people from your OS, say, Ubuntu are saying: "What do you want? - It works - it's not our fault", while torvalds is saying "What do you want? - It works - it's not my fault", while phoronix are saying "What do you want? - It works - it's not our fault" while the guys from WINE are saying "What do you want? - It works - it's not our fault".... you get the idea, I think.
So please - please help make it work, before you make it work fast.
Thank you!
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