laptop? right now the radeon driver is a complete disaster for laptops i use a "big fat workstation/desktop" with 3,8ghz quatcore cpu.
Originally Posted by Erbureth
the radeon driver is good for desktop or workstation use because the hardware do have the power to compensate the speed problems and power managment do not care at all.
but for laptops the radeon driver FAIL because: low-default frequencies , low performing hardware, bad power management
but i think the power-management stuff is on the future work list right now.
right now if you run the radeon driver make sure you put the power profile on high to use the max frequencies only with that tweak you will get the "performance" you can expect
Actually there are much more important features radeon driver provides.
Originally Posted by Qaridarium
1) It's rock-stable
2) Supports RandR, so I can use external monitors in dual-head setups (something I wasn't able to do with Catalyst)
3) Suspend/resume support (I don't want fear that I won't be able to do it after the kernel upgrade)
And even the powermanagement is acceptable, the battery life on radeon is comparable with catalyst's
Erbureth, could you post some data? Make some benchmark/recorded run etc of Portal and run that on radeon and fglrx.
It would be a bit more interesting than estimates
BTW if you do an apitrace I'd like to try it. Though distributing it isn't quite legal (contains Portal textures etc), shouldn't hurt posting a link here.
Who cares? I do. I could pay less money for a card, or have one that uses less power, maybe even get a smaller case for my hardware...
Originally Posted by Qaridarium
my point has nothing to do with your point because: it was a pure technical "FACT" that there is no USE of more Frames if your monitor can not push more FRAMES....
Originally Posted by crispy
There is an article asking what is wrong with Linux. Here what it is.
Can someone tell us, the regular users, HOW TO INSTALL THE LATEST DRIVERS? Is there any official documentation with detailed instructions?
The last time I tried, with information found by googling, I had to download / configure / compile / install several different components from multiple repositories AND ALSO compile a whole new kernel! I gave up there at the last part (install a new kernel). This is ridiculous.
As more functionality moves to shaders, patches like this one will be more important as the need to recompile shaders even for what would normally be considered state related changes increases. For instance, between 7xx and evergreen, exporting the same content to multiple CBs changed from being a state bit to requiring that the shader explicitly export to each CB. On SI, the format conversion from the shader to the CB used to be handled in the CB, now it's part of the shader so changing the CB format requires recompiling the shader. Caching can be very important for performance in these cases.
I've always gotten the newest drivers by installing a new distro. The Beefy Miracle is awesome, if you haven't tried it yet.
Originally Posted by zoomblab
Having a /home partition makes upgrading the whole operating system such a simple thing to do. Migration takes minutes, and with the repository servers you can't go wrong.
But I do (think I) understand what you're asking for. It would be very wise of the OSS driver devs to package up the xorg-x11-drv-ati/radeon/SI driver(s) with something like the Bitrock installer and make it easily installable/downloadable(YMMV) on linux - like Catalyst is on "that other operating system".
(I've never tried downloading and installing Catalyst on linux, so it may be easy here too)
The OSS AMD Linux driver does need an installer. That's what people are used to. We want to click next, next, next, watch the little bar, then reboot our computers.