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    Default Magenta Pairs Linux With Darwin/BSD, Is Like iOS

    Phoronix: Magenta Pairs Linux With Darwin/BSD, Is Like iOS

    Project Magenta has come about recently as a new operating system project that uses the Linux kernel with a Darwin/BSD user-space. Additionally, the project claims full binary compatibility with Apple's iOS 5.0 platform...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTExNzk

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    Cool project

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    What would be much more interesting, would be an environment where you could run OSX applications on top of a Linux kernel, maybe chrooted beside a simultaneous GNU userland.

    In fact, I'm having a hard time understanding just WTF the purpose of this is....???
    And in fact, the developer of this project seems to share the confusion:
    Quote Originally Posted by Christina of Magenta
    This is a very weird project. You may ask, why am I doing this? The answer is: no fucking idea
    LMAO!
    Guess she's having fun, but don't expect much to come of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    What would be much more interesting, would be an environment where you could run OSX applications on top of a Linux kernel, maybe chrooted beside a simultaneous GNU userland.
    That's pretty unlikely anytime soon I imagine you would hit some pretty big problems with other frameworks / software in MacOSX - i would think coreaudio and Quartz (among others) would cause potentially huge problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker
    In fact, I'm having a hard time understanding just WTF the purpose of this is....???
    A learning process, maybe...?

    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker
    LMAO!
    Yup, that was some funny shit, i also laughed pretty hard when i visited her site - i did appreciate her candor

    I don't think this project will grow into anything (by that i mean, in use by people). Other Apple/Darwin related open-source projects never really got off the ground, anyway. ie: things like OpenDarwin or PureDarwin.... But it's interesting, nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    What would be much more interesting, would be an environment where you could run OSX applications on top of a Linux kernel, maybe chrooted beside a simultaneous GNU userland.
    That would be nice, even if it was just a compatibility layer like wine. What surprises me is how nobody has really attempted to do this, even if it were for free-BSD

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    What is this good for?
    Why should I care about this?

    Will anything from this project be pushed upstreams?

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    It would be nice if this was compatible enough to allow the creation of an emulator so that development of iOS apps on linux would be much more feasible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    That would be nice, even if it was just a compatibility layer like wine. What surprises me is how nobody has really attempted to do this, even if it were for free-BSD
    I've wondered about this as well.
    Apple has really great docs, possibly as good as msft.
    Add to this someone porting iokit to linux and then you have something of real interest (though I wonder if reimplementing cocoa would be legal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by liam View Post
    I've wondered about this as well.
    Apple has really great docs, possibly as good as msft.
    Add to this someone porting iokit to linux and then you have something of real interest (though I wonder if reimplementing cocoa would be legal).
    Didn't the court rule in the Oracle vs. Google Java/Android case that APIs are not subject to copyright?

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by droidhacker View Post
    What would be much more interesting, would be an environment where you could run OSX applications on top of a Linux kernel, maybe chrooted beside a simultaneous GNU userland.
    That would be nice, even if it was just a compatibility layer like wine. What surprises me is how nobody has really attempted to do this, even if it were for free-BSD
    Doesn't such a thing exist already?

    Just after a bit of research: http://gitorious.org/ringo

    "Ringo is a runtime environment that runs Mac Applications on GNU/Linux"

    I haven't tried that myself and I don't know if it works yet. But at least it's work-in-progress.
    Last edited by M1kkko; 06-12-2012 at 12:30 PM.

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