Wayland, Weston 0.95 Pre-Release Is Available
Phoronix: Wayland, Weston 0.95 Pre-Release Is Available
In preparation for the Wayland/Weston 0.95 release in early July, a pre-release is now available (v0.94.90) that gets ready for this important milestone...
Does this means that when the v1.0 is out we can start using it instead of xorg ? (For the applications and DE that support it of course).
One last question, does Wayland support natively a solution to make Optimus work ?
Wayland should make life easier for Bumblebee, no more. There is no such thing called native solution to support Nvidia Optimus in Linux unless Nvidia decides to open their drivers or alike. And in their latest response to Linus Trovald, they confirmed that they're not willing to open anything but have their own philosophy on how to support Linux. That's a petty.
Originally Posted by aliasbody
It is not a bad news after all... I mean it can be worse... I prefer have direct access to my Nvidia using bumblebee, than doing that with virtualgl :S.. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Originally Posted by Hanynwosky
Weston still does not have --version or --help parameters. Nor does it have a manpage.
You can try Weston in Ubuntu 12.10 alpha, but it only have one application, some terminal.
Also, I just managed to run it under a window in X, not by itself.
So not very useful yet.
Also the mouse cursor lags while running Weston under a virtual machine.
The Wayland mailing list is quiet the last few days, I wonder why.
I run Rawhide so I have had wayland packages installed on my system for quite a while. But up to now we haven't had weston available. I just checked and I see it is now available as well. Though only at version 89-0.4. When I installed it it pulled in libxkbcommon so it looks like it has keyboard support. Good progress.
My question now is how do I make the pieces work? In this first round does X still start and then kick off wayland? Do we start wayland and then it calls X as needed? Is there a startW? Can any one point me at some docs that will help me try and cobble this together? I know it is still a work in progress but dang I'm the kind of person that just needs to look, touch and feel. Thanks.
Whether you can use Weston instead of (or below) an X server depends on what you can live without. We will see what that is exactly.
Originally Posted by aliasbody
Wayland 1.0 means that the core protocol and C library API are set in stone, and other software can rely on them. It does not mean anything about feature parity with X, nor how well compositors work, nor how well toolkits work. In fact, it does not mean much directly for an end user. However, it does mean, that Wayland will no longer be a running target, it will be more like a walking target. It becomes much more unlikely for changes in Wayland to break any existing software that was once made to work with it. That means that toolkit and desktop developers can concentrate their efforts in implementing more features, instead of continuously playing catch-up with Wayland.
Wayland is not a silver bullet to Optimus, and plays a tiny role there, if any. The hard part is in the drivers and the graphics infrastructure. Not having to re-architect huge chunks of the X server helps, though. Except people will probably do that anyway.