Oh no - not.... DAEMONS! In my opinion Linux should get rid of all the daemons. They are the problem. Especially when they don't make a whole area of Linux usage work automatically and uniformly.
Originally Posted by curaga
Possibly their functionality should be integrated into the kernel or something.
If you have an actual argument, I'm willing to debate. Again, please go read the previous threads, it's fairly clear that PA does not make audio work "automatically and uniformly".
Originally Posted by Wingfeather
Well, okay, I was facetious. But I thought my argument (which is really only a gripe with your argument) was quite clear: you state that Pulseaudio is bad simply because it is a daemon. But functionality is going to cost resources one way or another, and being a daemon appears to be the only logical way to implement this particular functionality.
Of course, I am not saying it is free of bugs, because as you point out, people are suffering from them right now. But Pulseaudio's design, at least, will make things work in a way that bare ALSA simply wasn't designed to. When the most pressing bugs are ironed out, linux will finally have a workable, competitive desktop audio system. But ALSA is not that system.
I have no illusions that Ubuntu will drop PA. If PA works for you, bless you. But I will always remember what PA does to me, from scratchy audio to phantom audio drops to whatever the hell it wants to do. I have better things to do than worry about PA.
I don't really give a crap about who 'won'. I'll just rip out PA on the next distribution I install and use whatever I want. Freedom of choice.
Originally Posted by gilboa
I personally believe that PA will become increasingly hard to rip-out, but as long as it works for you, great.
Originally Posted by niniendowarrior